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US Navy Witness Saw a ‘Tic Tac’ Operating Underwater off of Haiti in 2010

Article by Ryan Sprague                                                    July 11, 2021                                                                (medium.com)

• In January 2010, E-4 Petty Officer John Baughman was serving as a Gunner’s Mate on the supercarrier, the USS Carl Vinson, assisting in humanitarian aid to Haiti after an earthquake had destroyed a large portion of the country. One day, Baughman was dangling his legs off the SAM Launcher Deck on the Forward Starboard side of the ship, taking a short break. “I’d often see all kinds of wild stuff swimming and floating under and on the surface,” he says. “Everything from sharks, dolphins and whales to giant squids, sea turtles, and swordfish.”

• On this day, something caught his attention in the calm and clear water, unlike anything he’d ever seen before. “I was staring into the water from above when a large, fat, white ’Tic Tac’ object, approximately twenty feet in length, suddenly appeared in my view below me, moving right and darted into the depths as fast as it appeared. I couldn’t really comprehend what I saw. It was definitely a solid object, but when it descended, its forward end rapidly collapsed in on itself and disappeared.” Baughman told his work center supervisor about what he’d seen, and was met by a simple shrug of the shoulders. “Everyone sees weird shit in the ocean,” the supervisor said.

• So what could it have been? Was it the now-famous “Tic Tac” object sighted by the USS Nimitz and Princeton off of San Diego in 2004? Were these oblong-shaped Tic Tac objects originating in the ocean? Baughman is cautious in his conclusions. “It could have been just about anything,” he says. “Rapidly moving flotsam with a keen ability to completely disappear, very large albino shark or an albino whale. Could even be an optical illusion, but it cast its own shadow and that’s how I was able to perceive it as a solid object.”

• From his supervisor’s response, reporting such an incident probably wasn’t in Baughman’s best interest. He avoided talking about it for many years. His thinking on the subject of coming forward began to change in 2017 when the 2004 Nimitz event became public. That event was a pivotal moment for many to finally step forward and speak out. “Alex Dietrich and Dave Fravor were initial motivating factors in my coming out with my sighting.”

• While many active military personnel are still afraid to report their sightings, not reporting could actually pose a greater threat. If these events aren’t being reported, then whatever these UFOs are may be more likely to be able to enter our restricted air and sea space without our knowledge, leaving us to play catch-up as we have for so many years. “It’s hard to come to grips with something like this,” says Baughman. “I still feel somewhat insecure about it because it doesn’t make sense.” Are they foreign adversaries playing mind games? Non-human entities? Or the myriad of other possibilities?

• Baughman hopes that the recent Pentagon UAP report will force the DoD to be more productive in working with civilians. He wants the open source intelligence communities to get to the bottom of these sightings. Baughman believes these UFOs and USOs (unidentified submerged vehicles) could pose a threat or be manipulated into subverting our signals intelligence capabilities by capitalizing on the stigma associated with them.

• As the stigma and ridicule often attached to reporting these UFO events continues to dissipate, new reports like Baughman’s are going to become more common. By coming forward now, he’s showing the way for others, and bringing us one step closer to finding answers.

[Editor’s Note]   As you will recall, Dave Fravor, the Navy pilot who chased the ‘Tic Tac’ UFO off of the California coast in November 2004, said that the UFO shot down to sea level and hovered over a large object just under the churning water line.

 

For almost four years now, we’ve been talking about the USS Nimitz and its

   E-4 Petty Officer John Baughman (right)

encounter with “Tic Tac” type objects. Now there’s a new wrinkle. It’s a sighting of what looked like the same type of object, seen from a Nimitz class supercarrier, only this unknown object was operating underwater.

The USS Carl Vinson is the United States Navy’s third Nimitz-class supercarrier. It was first commissioned in 1982, deployed in 1983, and it’s famous for being the ship from where the body of Osama bin Laden was buried at sea in 2011. Since 2009, the ship has been the flagship for Carrier Strike Group One.

E-4 Petty Officer John Baughman served in the U.S. Navy from 2008 to 2013. In January 2010, he was stationed aboard the Carl Vinson, assisting in humanitarian aid to Haiti after an earthquake had destroyed a large portion of the country. A Gunner’s Mate, his job description called for him to “mount, stow, and secure all weaponry, repair and calibrate defense systems, maintain guided

      Navy pilot Alex Dietrich

missile launching, rocket launchers, gun mounts and all other ordnance.” In other words, the job carries serious responsibility and is only given to serious people.

Working as an E2 Blue Shirt on the flight deck one day, he was dangling his legs off the SAM Launcher Deck on the Forward Starboard side of the ship, taking a short break. He’d often look for sea life when things were at ease. “I’d often see all kinds of wild stuff swimming and floating under and on the surface,” he says. “Everything from sharks,

     Navy pilot Dave Fravor

dolphins and whales to giant squids, sea turtles, and swordfish.”

Baughman stressed that he had grown accustomed to identifying what was in the ocean and at what depths. “I had a pretty good reference point on how big or deep something was in the water, especially when you can see the water line on the side of the ship.” On this day, however, something caught his attention in the calm and clear water, unlike anything he’d ever seen before.

“I was staring into the water from above when a large, fat, white ’Tic Tac’ object, approximately twenty feet in length, suddenly appeared in my view below me, moving right and darted into the depths as fast as it appeared. I couldn’t really comprehend what I saw. It was definitely a solid object, but when it descended, its forward end rapidly collapsed in on itself and disappeared.”

Baughman reacted to this moment with disbelief and excitement. Feeling that it was an important observation, he told his work center supervisor about what he’d seen. Instead of a serious debrief or an instruction to file a report, he was met by a simple shrug of the shoulders. The supervisor said simply that “everyone sees weird shit in the ocean.”

So what could it have been? With an eerily similar description of the now-famous “Tic Tac” object sighted off the Nimitz and Princeton carriers in 2004, could it have possibly been something similar? And if so, were these oblong-shaped objects originating in the ocean?

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Tic Tac Navy Pilot Alex Dietrich Wants to ‘Normalize’ UFOs

Article from Reuters                                               June 25, 2021                                                   (nypost.com)

• In November 2004, during a routine training mission with the USS Nimitz aircraft carrier off the Southern California coast, Navy pilots David Fravor and Alex Dietrich were asked by another warship to investigate radar contacts in the area moving in an inexplicable fashion. The two pilots first noticed a “churning” of the ocean surface before seeing a smooth, white oblong object resembling a large ‘Tic Tac’ breath mint flying at high speed over the water. When Fravor turned to “engage with” the object, “it appeared to respond in a way that we didn’t recognize” because it seemed to lack “any visible flight control surfaces or means of propulsion,” Dietrich recalled.

• Now, with the release of the Senate UAP Task Force “Intelligence Assessment” Report and a CBS “60 minutes” interview, Dietrich has found herself at the center of a storm of UFO disclosure. “I don’t consider myself a whistle blower … I don’t identify as a UFO person,” the retired Navy Lieutenant Commander told Reuters. Since agreeing to enter the public spotlight, Dietrich has addressed dozens of video calls from journalists asking about what she saw in 2004. Her answer remains the same, as it has for the past 17 years. “We don’t know what it was, but it could have been a natural phenomenon in human activity. But the point was that it was weird and we couldn’t recognize it.”

• Dietrich said she wants to reduce the stigma attached to reporting UFO sightings and hopes more people can speak up without fear of ridicule. “Folks might be concerned about their careers or their church or something like that. They don’t want to be the kooky UFO person, so I guess I’m trying to normalize it by talking about it,” she said.

• While the UAP Task Force report covers more than 120 documented cases of enigmatic objects exhibiting speed and maneuverability exceeding known aviation technologies, Dietrich said she has no opinion on the report and was not privy to its contents. She would like to hear more from pilots who have had similar UFO sightings, however. “There’s a common humanity, I guess, of being a little bit shocked, a little bit delighted, a little bit nervous, confused, all of that. And so, recognizing that in another human, that can be comforting in a way,” she said. “I hope I’m not the UFO, Tic Tac person for the rest of my life. This is not what I envisioned for myself.”

 

WASHINGTON, June 24 – Retired US Navy Lieutenant Commander Alex Dietrich

                Alex Dietrich

has found herself in the glare of media attention ahead of a highly anticipated government report on UFOs, a subject she says she has little interest in, despite actually encountering one on the job.

“I don’t consider myself a whistle blower … I don’t identify as a UFO person,” the former fighter pilot told Reuters in a Zoom interview, days before the report, expected to feature her own experience and dozens of others like it, was due for presentation to Congress.

During a routine training mission with the aircraft carrier USS Nimitz off the Southern California coast in November 2004, Dietrich and her then-commanding officer, fellow pilot David Fravor,

                David Fravor

were asked by another warship to investigate radar contacts in the area moving in an inexplicable fashion.

She recounted they first noticed an unusual “churning” of the ocean surface before seeing what she and Fravor have described as a smooth, white oblong object resembling a large Tic Tac breath mint flying at high speed over the water.

When Fravor in his jet turned to “engage with” the object, “it appeared to respond in a way that we didn’t recognize” because it seemed to lack “any visible flight control surfaces or means of propulsion,” Dietrich recalled.

Footage of what Dietrich and Fravor witnessed that day, now popularly known as the Tic Tac incident, will likely be included in the upcoming report to Congress, along with two other declassified videos taken by US Navy fighter jets in 2015 in similar encounters with what the government calls unidentified aerial phenomena or UAP.

The US Navy has previously confirmed the videos as authentic.

Dietrich, now a mother of three, has discussed her experience in a recent joint appearance with Fravor on the CBS News program “60 Minutes,” and has since addressed dozens of video calls from other journalists asking to know more about what she saw in 2004.

Her answer remains the same, as it has for the past 17 years.

“We don’t know what it was, but it could have been a natural phenomenon in human activity. But the point was that it was weird and we couldn’t recognize it,” Dietrich said, speaking from a Colorado hotel room she was sharing with her children and two dogs.

Juggling media queries amid a cross-country family move is exhausting, but Dietrich said she wants to reduce the stigma attached to reporting UFO sightings and hopes more people can speak up without fear of ridicule.

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Female Fighter Pilot Who Saw the Tic Tac UFO

Article by Petula Dvorak                                                May 24, 2021                                                      (washingtonpost.com)

• Lt. Cmdr. Alex Dietrich of Annapolis, Maryland is a retired US Navy fighter pilot, a mother of three, and a popular guest at the Pentagon and Capitol Hill being questioned about the day in 2004 that she saw the ‘Tic Tac’ UFO from the seat of her Super Hornet fighter jet in the skies near San Diego. “My life right now is very surreal,” said Dietrich, 41. Her testimony has been in high demand since the President signed into law a bill requesting the director of national intelligence and the secretary of defense to provide a declassified report on everything the government knows about UFOs/UAPs. It is due to be released in June.

• On November 14, 2004, Dietrich was a newly winged pilot on a regular training flight with the USS Nimitz Carrier Strike Group over the ocean off of San Diego when something moving fast and erratically came into view. Her boss, Commander Dave Fravor, told her to hang back and be his wingman while he flew closer in to check it out. The object began mirroring his movements and then just disappeared. A video recording from that day captured a white object shaped like a Tic Tac, along with the howls and exclamations of the pilots who were tracking it. The video was released by ‘To The Stars Academy of Arts & Science’ in 2017, and the video gained a lot of traction after the Pentagon verified its authenticity.

• As soon as the pilots returned to their aircraft carrier that day, they reported everything they saw and how it happened. “We all collectively lost our minds,” said Dietrich. “There was no denying it, everybody had heard us on the radio.” Even the technicians back at the ship saw the object on their radar. In the days after the UFO sighting, Fravor and Dietrich’s colleagues were merciless. They looped alien-invader movies “Men in Black” and “Independence Day” to show on the ship’s channels. They left tinfoil hats all over the place. The daily newsletters had little green men cartoons. They had to laugh it off, saying that if she and her fellow pilots had been flying solo, “… we wouldn’t have said anything”.

• Dietrich has kept a low profile over the past 17 years, flying more than 200 combat missions and 57 mounted combat patrols and ground assault convoy missions over two deployments in Iraq and Afghanistan. More recently, Dietrich has been teaching at George Washington University and at the U.S. Naval Academy. “People have found me throughout the years,” she said. “I just was an eyewitness to something in the course of my normal duties . . . that somehow makes me a portal.” She is a hero to the believers and she listens patiently to debunkers who found her private number and screamed at her over the phone.

• When asked why she has agreed to talk to reporters including her recent appearance in a UFO segment on CBS’ 60 Minutes, says, “I do feel a duty and obligation. I was in a taxpayer-funded aircraft, doing my job as a military officer. Citizens have questions. It’s not classified. If I can share or help give a reasonable response, I will. I don’t want to be someone who’s saying ‘no comment.’” Dietrich has decided to be open about it now because she knows other pilots have seen similar UFOs but have kept quiet – afraid of the conspiracy realm stigma.

• Dietrich is also keeping busy with her three kids, ages 2, 4 and 6. One of them was the hit of that day’s pre-K show-and-tell when he brought in the red-and-white helmet Dietrich was wearing that November day in 2004. Another was commanding her from the back seat during the telephone interview: “Window open!” followed by a chorus of squeals and shrieks from the back seat. “No, I [don’t] have time to think about it too much,” she sighed. “But I will pay someone to abduct me right now.”

 

                         Alex Dietrich

She picked up the kids after finishing her last call at work — there was some whining

               Lt. Cmdr. Alex Dietrich

in the back seat — and raced to her home near Annapolis for family dinnertime. In between, she answered questions about the UFO.

“My life right now is very surreal,” said Lt. Cmdr. Alex Dietrich, who is a 41-year-old mother of three, a retired fighter pilot and one of the few people who gets regularly hauled into the Pentagon or before Congress for further questioning about the day in 2004 she saw a UFO — the Pentagon prefers to call them unidentified aerial phenomena — from the seat of her Super Hornet in the skies near San Diego.

                        ‘Tic Tac’ UFO

Dietrich is pragmatic, forthright and has a swaggery, pilot’s sense of humor about this thing she’s been living with for nearly 17 years.

                           David Fravor

Thanks to a bizarro little line in last year’s coronavirus relief bill, the director of national intelligence and the secretary of defense are ordered to generate a report on everything the government knows about UAPs — including Dietrich’s sighting. It’s coming next month, and it’s going to be D.C.’s hottest summer read.

And now that UFOs join the pandemic and insurrection on the congressional agenda (when it comes to the weird year contest, 2021 is telling 2020 to “hold my beer”), Dietrich’s callers have moved from mostly the fringe, stalkery UFO fanatics who just want to be near her, to mainstream media freaks like me. She patiently plays along.

“I do feel a duty and obligation,” Dietrich said, when I asked her why she took my call and why she agreed to talk to “60 Minutes,” her national media debut. “I was in a taxpayer-funded aircraft, doing my job as a military officer,” she said. “Citizens have questions. It’s not classified. If I can share or help give a reasonable response, I will. I don’t want to be someone who’s saying ‘no comment.’ ”

So, on to the events of Nov. 14, 2004.

She was a newly winged pilot on a regular training flight with the USS Nimitz Carrier Strike Group that day when something moving fast and erratically came into view.

Dietrich’s boss, Cmdr. Dave Fravor, told her to hang back and be his wingman while he flew closer in to check it out. The object began mirroring his movements and then just disappeared.

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