Article by Jazz Shaw October 6, 2019 (hotair.com)
• Retired Navy Commander David Fravor, who was one of the fighter pilots who chased a ‘Tic Tac UFO’ off of San Diego in 2004, was on the Joe Rogan podcast show on October 6th giving more details about the remarkable encounter for nearly two hours. (see 1:54:25 video below) Rogan and Fravor were joined by Jeremy Corbell, the filmmaker who recently released a documentary about Bob Lazar of Area 51 fame.
• Among the interesting details, Fravor said that pilots in multiple encounters with UFOs on both the Atlantic and Pacific Coasts report that the UFOs are blocking their state-of-the-art radar systems making it impossible to get a lock on them. This is proof that some sort of intelligent source is controlling these UFOs. Fravor noted that in his 2004 encounter with the Tic Tac UFO, his F/A-18F Super Hornet jet was not equipped with live missiles, but only a 20 mm rotary cannon.
• Fravor also reveals that he has personally been summoned to Washington multiple times this year for private, confidential meetings with “high ranking government officials,” and government investigations into these incidents are far from over.
• At the 49-minute mark in the interview, Fravor tells a story about how he and other Navy pilots would occasionally pretend to be UFO’s for campers in remote parts of southern California. Said Fravor, “We used to fly night vision goggles… [and] you can see a campfire from like fifty miles away. So we would go out at night flying around on goggles. You’d see a campfire and go, ‘Oh. UFO time’”. “[Y]ou get the airplane going around 600 knots and then you pull the power back to idle so you can’t hear it. Then you get zinging toward the fire and you turn the lights all down because we’re in a restricted area so you can do that. There’s lights on it you can only see if you’re on vision goggles. So the other airplanes can see us, but no one else can see us. Then you go zinging at it and right when you get to the campfire you pull the airplane into vertical and stroke the afterburners, let ’em light off, you count to three and then you just go away. Instant UFO reporting.” How many MUFON reports from campers in the Superstition Mountains near El Centro California have just been debunked?
By this time you may already be familiar with Cmdr. David Fravor (US Navy, retired) as the fighter pilot who engaged what’s come to be known as the white Tic-Tac UFO back in 2004, leading to one of the remarkable videos released by the Pentagon over the past couple of years. He’s given a number of interviews to various mainstream news outlets recently, talking about his remarkable experience. But yesterday he showed up on the Joe Rogan show for a nearly two-hour discussion and it turned into a serious deep dive. I’ll embed the full video of the interview below, but first I wanted to cover a few of the highlights. (The entire show is worth your time, however, even if you’re already familiar with the story. Fravor goes into a lot of details we hadn’t heard before.)
Also on the show was filmmaker Jeremy Corbell, who recently released a movie about Bob Lazar. (Ugh.) He briefly derails the conversation a couple of times talking about Lazar and some Ancient Aliens type stuff, but also adds in several good details about the recent revelations.
Sometimes when people go on Rogan’s show it turns out to be something of a disaster. Just ask Elon Musk or Tom DeLonge. Joe has a way of dragging them down various rabbit holes or getting them to engage in antics that wind up being embarrassing. That didn’t happen with Fravor, who maintained an air of cool professionalism throughout. (Well, there’s one possible exception I’ll get to in a moment.) But here are some of the highlights.
One detail he revealed early in the interview while describing the Tic-Tac encounter was that his F/A-18F Super Hornet was not equipped with any live missiles. Dummy loads were installed because they were scheduled to go on a training mission. This would have presumably left him with nothing more than his 20 mm rotary cannon if things had gotten tense with the unidentified craft.
Another fascinating detail he included was that during multiple encounters with the Tic-Tacs on both coasts, pilots were able to determine that the objects were actively blocking their radar systems, making it impossible to get a lock on them. And we’re talking about one of the newest, best radar systems in the world. This is interesting because it at least implies an actively engaged, intelligent force controlling the Tic-Tacs. (Whether that’s local or remote, biological or AI-driven we don’t know.)
1:54:25 full Joe Rogan show with David Fravor and Jeremy Corbell (‘PowerfulJRE’ YouTube)
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