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A UFO Report, the Pentagon, and Bob Lazar

Article by Glen Meek                                                  June 1, 2021                                                (nevadacurrent.com)

• This month, the US Senate expects to receive a highly anticipated report on UFOs/UAPs, with declassified portions made public. Will this shed light on the physicist Bob Lazar’s claim of working on a captured extraterrestrial spacecraft at a secret government facility called S-4 near Area 51 in Nevada?

• Lazar surfaced publicly in 1989, when he was interviewed by George Knapp of KLAS-TV, Las Vegas. Lazar’s claims were fantastic: that the U.S. government had in its possession nine crashed or captive spacecraft from another world — at least one of them shaped like an actual saucer. Lazar claimed he’d been part of a team hired by the government to “reverse-engineer” the craft. Lazar said he was fired from his job at the base because one evening he brought some friends into the desert near Area 51 to surreptitiously watch a saucer being test flown. A Lincoln County deputy caught the group leaving the area and the deputy ratted Lazar out to the government.

• While publicity surrounding Lazar’s claims literally put Area 51 on the map, it also shined a spotlight on Lazar himself. It wasn’t long before people started picking apart his story. Places where Lazar claimed to have gone to college — like CalTech and MIT — said they’d never heard of him. About a year after his initial TV interview, Lazar found himself criminally charged for helping operate what prosecutors described as an illegal “high-tech whore house.” That didn’t help his credibility much.

• As his case worked through the legal system, Lazar produced a W-2 form, reflecting income of less than one thousand dollars, paid to him by the Department of Naval Intelligence – one of the few bits of physical evidence that he’d worked at a secret base. Skeptics pointed out that there’s an Office of Naval Intelligence within the Department of the Navy — but not a Department of Naval Intelligence.

• Yet, despite a dearth of physical evidence and lack of corroboration from other scientists, Lazar’s astounding tale has not only survived over three decades but has thrived. His claims received renewed attention in 2018 with a film documentary produced by Jeremy Corbell on Netflix, which led to Lazar appearing on the popular Joe Rogan podcast. Corbell did say that he believed there was more evidence that Lazar was telling the truth than there was that he was lying.

• Just because you don’t know what something is doesn’t mean it is extraterrestrial, however. The request for the Senate UAP study makes no mention of alien intelligence or extraterrestrial space vehicles. But the language of the request calls for such a comprehensive study that the results should either confirm or debunk Lazar’s claims. The Senate report calls for “A detailed analysis of unidentified aerial phenomena data and intelligence reporting… including data and intelligence reporting held by the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Task Force”.

• The report also calls for “Identification of any incidents or patterns that indicate a potential adversary may have achieved breakthrough aerospace capabilities that could put United States strategic or conventional forces at risk.”

• Thus, the upcoming Senate report has the potential to paint Lazar as an unfairly maligned interstellar whistleblower with more impact than Edward Snowden, Karen Silkwood and Daniel Ellsberg combined. Or it may suggest that Lazar is a liar or a loon. Is there any chance that the government findings would reveal that it has “alien technology in our possession capable of performing the same kind of high-speed, gravity-defying maneuvers we’re seeing in these videos”?

• It is doubtful that such a world-shattering revelation is about to be made. When Barack Obama was asked about UFOs in a recent interview with CBS-TV’s James Corden, he said he was aware of real incidents involving unknown objects in the sky making incredible, unexplained maneuvers. “When I came into office, I asked (about aliens), right?” said Obama. “I was like, alright, is there the lab somewhere where we’re keeping the alien specimens and spaceship? They did a little bit of research and the answer was no.”

• If the upcoming Senate report does not vindicate Lazar, what will it say about him – if anything? Or is Lazar considered a mere minor player who made extraordinary claims but was an ordinary employee at Area 51 who never got near a saucer, because there weren’t any?

• It is likely that the report will contain new details about many incidents already reported, and new reports of other previously secret sightings. Some events might even seem to defy conventional explanation. But people who are expecting the military to finally provide evidence validating Lazar’s resume as a saucer mechanic will be disappointed.

• One thing you can say about Lazar: he did not drop vague, tantalizing hints – e.g.: that scientists have possible “exotic materials” that need further testing to determine whether they’re of alien origin. Lazar flat out said our scientists have nine captive alien craft, that they’ve been studying these craft for more than thirty years, and that he personally worked on the craft.

• If Lazar’s case remains unconfirmed, however, true believers may decry the Senate report as just another whitewash – a 21st century redux of “Project Bluebook” which looked at more than 12,000 UFO sightings between 1952 and 1969 and concluded there was no evidence any of them involved extraterrestrial vehicles.

• At the very least, the request for the report indicates the government and military are starting to take these phenomena seriously, and whether they pose a threat to our national security. That’s progress.

 

                   Bob Lazar in 1989

This month, a highly anticipated report is slated to be delivered to the United States

                          Bob Lazar today

Senate on the subject of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) — what we used to call Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs). The report is to be made public (although it may have a classified annex) and was requested as part of the Intelligence Authorization Act attached to a COVID-19 relief bill. Its purpose is to provide lawmakers with the best information available from the Pentagon and the intelligence community about incidents that appear to involve vehicles with amazing flight characteristics far beyond those of our most advanced aircraft.

But, this report should also shed light on — and, in theory, resolve — a thirty-year old, major UFO puzzle with Nevada origins: did a young physicist named Bob Lazar actually work on captured extraterrestrial spacecraft at a secret government facility called S-4, in Lincoln County near Area 51?

Lazar surfaced publicly in 1989, when he was interviewed by my former colleague George Knapp of KLAS-TV, Las Vegas. At first, Lazar spoke only in silhouette, and used the pseudonym “Dennis”. Later, he came forward under his own name and with no disguise. Lazar’s claims were fantastic: that the U.S government had, in its possession, nine crashed or captive spacecraft from another world — at least one of them shaped like an actual saucer. Lazar claimed he’d been part of a team hired by the government to “reverse-engineer” the craft, which would unlock for American scientists the propulsion secrets they

Lazar (middle) with George Knapp and Jeremy Corbell 

needed to pave a path to the stars.

Lazar said he was fired from his job at the clandestine military base because he brought some friends into the desert near Area 51 one evening to surreptitiously watch a saucer being test flown. A Lincoln County deputy caught the group leaving the area and the deputy ratted Lazar out to the government.

Lazar’s story combined the most compelling elements of alien abduction stories and shadow-government conspiracy theories. The tale had a profound influence on popular culture from cartoons like American Dad to movies like Paul & Independence Day.

                                                                 Lazar’s W-2 form from Area 51

 

 

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Aliens On Earth? Elon Musk Has His Doubts

Article by Christine Andas                                                 February 22, 2021                                          (ph.asiatatler.com)

• As the CEO and founder of SpaceX, the first private company to launch a spacecraft to reach the International Space Station and to send humans to space, Elon Musk (pictured above) would most probably know if aliens do exist. In a recent interview on the Joe Rogan podcast, Rogan asked him whether extraterrestrial beings exist and are visiting the Earth. Shaking his head, Musk responded by saying, “No… To the best of my knowledge… there is no direct evidence [of] alien life [on Earth].”

• Musk then insinuated that if extraterrestrial beings were here on Earth, with so many people possessing iPhones why aren’t there any good photos of them, noting that the pictures and video released by the Pentagon and the CIA of hovering UFOs have been grainy black and white footage. The use this to claim that it is still unclear whether UFOs are indeed of extraterrestrial origin.

• In addition to being the CEO of SpaceX rocket manufacturing and Tesla Motors electric car manufacturing, Musk is the co-founder of Neuralink which develops brain-machine interfaces, and OpenAI which is developing next generation Artificial Intelligence. Musk is also the CEO of The Boring Company, which bores underground transportation tunnels. All of this has made Musk the “Richest Man in the World”.

• One need not go too far to find others who harbor doubts about the existence of extraterrestrial life – visiting the Earth or not. Most mainstream scientists and astronomers would agree. In 1979, American mathematical physicist Frank J. Tipler strongly insisted that aliens do not exist and that humans are the only intelligent species in the galaxy. In 1961, the mathematician Frank Drake developed the ‘Drake Equation’ wherein he estimated that there are likely only ten other planets in the Milky Way galaxy that might harbor extraterrestrial civilizations. Recently, Tom Westby and Christopher J. Conselice used the Drake Equation to arrive at their own estimate that no more than 36 alien civilizations exist in the galaxy. And of course, none of them have reached Earth.

[Editor’s Note]  Let’s see. A high-profile space transportation company clinging to outdated rocket propulsion technology. An electric car manufacturing company. A company developing Artificial Intelligence and a sister company integrating that technology into the human brain. And a deep underground tunnel boring company. Elon Musk’s vast fortune depends entirely on the Deep State and the cabal’s nefarious plans for the future. So of course Musk is going to go along with the Deep State’s cover-up of the existence of the numerous extraterrestrial races with whom cabal operatives here on Earth continually interact. The Deep State has been keeping the existence of extraterrestrials and their advanced technology from the people of Earth since the inception of the CIA and Majestic 12 in 1947. They simply want this highly advanced alien technology all to themselves, so that they can dominate the Earth and our solar system. Since Musk is so closely tied to this elite cabal of government, bankers and industrialists, he must know the truth about the extraterrestrial presence. This makes Elon Musk a liar and a Deep State stooge, as I have been saying for years.

 

         ‘Space Cowboy’ Elon Musk

“To the best of my knowledge… there is no direct evidence [of] alien life [on earth],” Elon Musk recently said in a new interview

                  ‘Dr Evil’ Elon Musk

with Joe Rogan. Rogan was hoping Musk would know (or at least hint at) the existence of these cosmo beings but Elon only responded by shaking his head, saying “no”.

“Somebody’s gotta at least have an iPhone 1 level camera,” he added. This rings true considering all the UFO footage that the Pentagon released last year and CIA’s UFO files which were released recently. The Pentagon’s grainy black and white footage revealed a hovering figure. Although the unidentified flying object was evident in the footage, it’s still unclear if it was the work of an extraterrestrial being.

As the CEO and founder of SpaceX, the first private company to launch a spacecraft to reach the space station and send humans to space, Musk would most probably know if aliens do exist. He has mastered multiple fields namely rocket science, engineering,

                Musk with Joe Rogan

transportation and aerospace. Apart from SpaceX, Elon is also the CEO of Tesla Motors and The Boring Company. He is also the co-founder of Neuralink and OpenAI. Currently, Elon’s prowess and success have earned him the title “Richest Man in the World”.

      Frank J. Tipler

CONTRASTING INTELLIGENT LIFE STUDIES

One would think that the copious amount of alien studies, footage, and documents that we have would finally answer the questions we have been asking for years. But these discoveries are only revealing contrasting finds made by scientists and astronomers alike.

In 1979, American mathematical physicist Frank J. Tipler strongly insists that aliens do not exist and that humans are the only intelligent species to exist in the galaxy.

The Drake Equation which Frank Drake started in 1961 is an argument used to estimate the number of alien civilisations in the milky way galaxy. It helped Drake estimate 10 planets in the milky way. Since then, various scientists have used the Drake Equation in an attempt to make the best guesses. It helped Tom Westby and Christopher J. Conselice in their new study. They claim that alien life is existent but rare—only 36 alien societies reside within the milky way.

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Why Joe Rogan is “100% Convinced” Aliens Are Among Us

Article by Georgia Smith                                       September 10, 2020                                           (dexerto.com)

• Joe Rogan (pictured above) recently moved his popular podcast from LA to Austin, Texas. The studio’s red lighting and tunnel-like shape give the new location a slightly futuristic feel. This was fitting in the September 9th episode with comedian Ron White when the topic of conversation turned to aliens and UFOs. Rogan asked rhetorically, “when will the aliens land? I’ve been thinking the aliens are coming.”

• “I’m convinced, I’m 100% convinced,” he said about the idea that aliens are “dancing among us.” Rogan says that he used to be 60% certain. But he revealed that he’s “talked to people that have seen them. I talked to this one guy who was a pilot,” referring to Commander David Fravor. “He encountered this thing that they called the Tic-Tac UFO. This is an object that they tracked on radar that went from 60,000 feet to one foot above sea level in less than a second.” This particular sighting was actually recorded by the US Navy, with its authenticity confirmed by the Pentagon in 2019. Officials still claim not to know what the object was.

• Rogan then discussed his 2019 interview with physicist Bob Lazar who worked on back-engineering a craft found by the government, saying that Lazar “right away knew that this was no technology that we had currently available.” The propulsion system Lazar describes in a documentary bears striking similarities to the system of the Tic-Tac UFO.

• Rogan admitted that he’s “always worried about things I wanna believe. If I wanna believe it I’m always skeptical.” Perhaps Rogan’s audacity to seriously talk about aliens and UFOs – and government secrets – will prompt more guests with alien-related experience to share their stories.

 

           Commander David Fravor

Since Joe moved his podcast studio from hectic LA to Texas for a fresh start, the studio design of the

                              Bob Lazar

classic brick walls and purple curtains has gone through a dramatic transformation.

The brand new Texas studio boasts some interesting red lighting, a tunnel-like shape, and some protruding black and red panels among other ornaments that give the new location a slightly futuristic feel.

It seems only fitting that the conversation about aliens would arise with the background looking like it had come straight out of a sci-fi movie. He began by broaching the bizarre topic with “when will the aliens land? I’ve been thinking the aliens are coming.”

“I’m convinced, I’m 100% convinced,” he said about the idea that aliens are “dancing among us,” but he “used to be 60%.” He continued by revealing that he “talked to people that have seen them. I talked to this one guy who was a pilot,” regarding his conversation with a man named Commander Fravor.

“He encountered this thing that they called the Tic-Tac UFO. This is an object that they tracked on radar that went from 60,000 feet to one foot above sea level in less than a second.”

 

Joe Rogan Podcast discussing UFOs and aliens, starts at 1:00:30 (‘PowerfulJRE’ YouTube)

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Pilot Who Chased UFO Reveals a Lot More of the Story

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Article by Jazz Shaw                         October 6, 2019                        (hotair.com)

• Retired Navy Commander David Fravor, who was one of the fighter pilots who chased a ‘Tic Tac UFO’ off of San Diego in 2004, was on the Joe Rogan podcast show on October 6th giving more details about the remarkable encounter for nearly two hours. (see 1:54:25 video below) Rogan and Fravor were joined by Jeremy Corbell, the filmmaker who recently released a documentary about Bob Lazar of Area 51 fame.

• Among the interesting details, Fravor said that pilots in multiple encounters with UFOs on both the Atlantic and Pacific Coasts report that the UFOs are blocking their state-of-the-art radar systems making it impossible to get a lock on them. This is proof that some sort of intelligent source is controlling these UFOs. Fravor noted that in his 2004 encounter with the Tic Tac UFO, his F/A-18F Super Hornet jet was not equipped with live missiles, but only a 20 mm rotary cannon.

• Fravor also reveals that he has personally been summoned to Washington multiple times this year for private, confidential meetings with “high ranking government officials,” and government investigations into these incidents are far from over.

• At the 49-minute mark in the interview, Fravor tells a story about how he and other Navy pilots would occasionally pretend to be UFO’s for campers in remote parts of southern California. Said Fravor, “We used to fly night vision goggles… [and] you can see a campfire from like fifty miles away. So we would go out at night flying around on goggles. You’d see a campfire and go, ‘Oh. UFO time’”. “[Y]ou get the airplane going around 600 knots and then you pull the power back to idle so you can’t hear it. Then you get zinging toward the fire and you turn the lights all down because we’re in a restricted area so you can do that. There’s lights on it you can only see if you’re on vision goggles. So the other airplanes can see us, but no one else can see us. Then you go zinging at it and right when you get to the campfire you pull the airplane into vertical and stroke the afterburners, let ’em light off, you count to three and then you just go away. Instant UFO reporting.” How many MUFON reports from campers in the Superstition Mountains near El Centro California have just been debunked?

 

By this time you may already be familiar with Cmdr. David Fravor (US Navy, retired) as the fighter pilot who engaged what’s come to be known as the white Tic-Tac UFO back in 2004, leading to one of the remarkable videos released by the Pentagon over the past couple of years. He’s given a number of interviews to various mainstream news outlets recently, talking about his remarkable experience. But yesterday he showed up on the Joe Rogan show for a nearly two-hour discussion and it turned into a serious deep dive. I’ll embed the full video of the interview below, but first I wanted to cover a few of the highlights. (The entire show is worth your time, however, even if you’re already familiar with the story. Fravor goes into a lot of details we hadn’t heard before.)

   Retired Navy Commander David Fravor

Also on the show was filmmaker Jeremy Corbell, who recently released a movie about Bob Lazar. (Ugh.) He briefly derails the conversation a couple of times talking about Lazar and some Ancient Aliens type stuff, but also adds in several good details about the recent revelations.

Sometimes when people go on Rogan’s show it turns out to be something of a disaster. Just ask Elon Musk or Tom DeLonge. Joe has a way of dragging them down various rabbit holes or getting them to engage in antics that wind up being embarrassing. That didn’t happen with Fravor, who maintained an air of cool professionalism throughout. (Well, there’s one possible exception I’ll get to in a moment.) But here are some of the highlights.

One detail he revealed early in the interview while describing the Tic-Tac encounter was that his F/A-18F Super Hornet was not equipped with any live missiles. Dummy loads were installed because they were scheduled to go on a training mission. This would have presumably left him with nothing more than his 20 mm rotary cannon if things had gotten tense with the unidentified craft.

Another fascinating detail he included was that during multiple encounters with the Tic-Tacs on both coasts, pilots were able to determine that the objects were actively blocking their radar systems, making it impossible to get a lock on them. And we’re talking about one of the newest, best radar systems in the world. This is interesting because it at least implies an actively engaged, intelligent force controlling the Tic-Tacs. (Whether that’s local or remote, biological or AI-driven we don’t know.)

1:54:25 full Joe Rogan show with David Fravor and Jeremy Corbell (‘PowerfulJRE’ YouTube)

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Joe Rogan and Bernie Sanders Tackle the Important Stuff: Aliens

Article by Will Gendron                      August 07, 2019                      (thefader.com)

• On August 6th, Democratic Presidential candidate Bernie Sanders (D-Vermont) was a guest on the Joe Rogan Experience podcast. Sanders took the opportunity to clarify his views on a number of major issues, including climate change, student debt, and the misconceptions surrounding the minimum wage.

• At the very end of the interview, Rogan asked Sanders, “If you got into the office and you found out something about aliens, you found out something about UFOs, would you let us know?” Sanders responded that if he, as President, learned anything about extraterrestrial presence, he would announce it on the Joe Rogan Experience.  (see video clip below)

 

Joe Rogan asks Sanders during the final 41 seconds of the podcast. Sanders jovially makes a commitment to announcing anything he may find out about extraterrestrial activity on the Joe Rogan Experience itself. The reality of this situation occurring wouldn’t be too shocking at this point, considering the simulation has been cracking for a while now.

When Rogan isn’t letting people like Ben Shapiro and Jordan Peterson talk for actual hours without being challenged on their racist and misogynistic ideas, his platform has been more effective than the current Democratic debate format for Sanders, who was able to clarify his views on a number of major issues.

38 second clip from the Joe Rogan Experience with Bernie Sanders
discussing disclosure of the extraterrestrial presence (JRE Clips YouTube)

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Tom DeLonge’s UFO Organization Says It’s Obtained ‘Exotic’ Metals Unknown to Science

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Article by MJ Banias                     July 26, 2019                   (vice.com)

• In 2017 when the New York Times ran an article about a secret Pentagon UFO program, the article tantalizingly noted that aerospace billionaire Robert Bigelow was housing “metal alloys and other materials…that [allegedly] had been recovered from unidentified aerial phenomena.” These “alien alloys” quickly became the topic of great intrigue.

• Rocker-turned-Ufologist, Tom DeLonge (pictured above), now says that his ‘To the Stars Academy’ has acquired “potentially exotic materials.” It is not clear whether his metamaterials are the same ones as previously referenced in the NY Times article.

• “The structure and composition of these materials are not from any known existing military or commercial application,” said Steve Justice, the COO of the ‘To The Stars Academy’ and former head of Advanced Systems at Lockheed Martin’s Skunk Works. “They’ve been collected from sources with varying levels of chain-of-custody documentation, so we are focusing on verifiable facts and working to develop independent scientific proof of the materials’ properties and attributes. In some cases, the manufacturing technology required to fabricate the material is only now becoming available.” Justice says that the organization wants to reverse engineer the metals with hopes of manufacturing more of them. 

• According to the press release, some of these materials were in the possession of UFO researcher and journalist Linda Moulton Howe, who, in 2004, gave a presentation at the Xcon Conference regarding these materials. In her lecture, she suggests that the material could become a “lifting body” with the right amount of electromagnetic static and certain RF frequency. These are undoubtedly the same materials mentioned by DeLonge on his Joe Rogan interview where he stated, “if you hit it with enough terahertz, it’ll float.”

• In an interview with Motherboard, Dr. Chris Cogswell, who hosts the Mad Scientist Podcast and who holds a PhD in Chemical Engineering, said that layered magnesium and bismuth alloys are pretty common and are certainly easily explainable by science. “Micrometer thick layers are made by mistake in metallurgy facilities all the time.” Cogswell says that if these materials are truly exotic, then initial results should come relatively quickly. “[T]hese tests would take all of a month to run and analyze to see if there is something worth pursuing.”

• Until some rigorous third party scientific testing occurs, or a peer-reviewed paper in an academic journal is published, the best course of action here is to just wait and see.

 

Former Blink 182 frontman and current UFOlogist Tom DeLonge says that his UFO research organization has acquired “potentially exotic materials featuring properties not from any known existing military or commercial application.” It has not yet provided any proof to back up this claim.

For 70 years, the UFO community has been engaged in active debate regarding physical debris from unidentified flying objects, but the general public got a true taste of that in 2017 when the New York Times ran an article about a secret Pentagon UFO program. The article tantalizingly noted that aerospace billionaire Robert Bigelow, whose interest in UFOs is no secret, modified buildings to house “metal alloys and other materials…that [allegedly] had been recovered from unidentified aerial phenomena.”

These “alien alloys” quickly became the topic of great intrigue. DeLonge’s To the Stars Academy, a UFO research outfit that may or may not be broke, said that it has recently acquired some metamaterials, though it’s not clear whether they are the same ones referenced in the NY Times article.

“The structure and composition of these materials are not from any known existing military or commercial application,” Steve Justice, To The Stars Academy’s COO and former head of Advanced Systems at Lockheed Martin’s Skunk Works said in a statement. “They’ve been collected from sources with varying levels of chain-of-custody documentation, so we are focusing on verifiable facts and working to develop independent scientific proof of the materials’ properties and attributes. In some cases, the manufacturing technology required to fabricate the material is only now becoming available.”

Justice said that the organization wants to reverse engineer the metals with hopes of manufacturing more of them.

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