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A Reversal of OSD Pentagon Statements About AATIP?

El Pentágono de los Estados Unidos en Washington DC mirando hacia abajo la vista aérea desde arriba

Do you know that, recently, Mrs. Susan Gough (PR spokeswoman of the OSD – Office of the Secretary of Defense) allegedly/apparently wrote an email to Mr. John Greenwald (The Black Vault) saying (according to Mr. Greenwald) that AATIP did not investigate UAP (UFOs)? I still haven’t read the original letter but it is something that has to be known.

I expect more information to come out soon, from Mr. Greenwald, perhaps from Mrs. Gough, perhaps from the Navy and from TTSA.  Is it a misunderstanding or a fundamental conflict of factual information? Is it a strange strategy to confuse people?

These declarations would have to deny not only Mr. Elizondo’s but also Mr. Jim Semivan, Chris Mellon, H. Puthoff and other serious people (such as Senator Harry Reid), not only knowledgeable about classified information (and intelligence clearances) but also linked to TTSA, credible persons who today – as a whole – guarantee that AATIP did investigate UAPs (UFOs). 

Is all of this a confusion or a reversal of policy? 

It doesn’t seem to make sense but (if the information shared by Mr. Greenwald is accurate) WHY would this be happening now? Do some persons “in the know” want to lock the cat back after it came out of the box?

Or is Mr. Greenwald’s information not very clear? Or perhaps is this the old pattern of those who try to control what the population knows, using the practice of revelation followed by denial? (However, this revealing was to one or a few individuals only before the denial).

Is it a mistake from Mrs. Gough who doesn’t know all the information? Or has she been told to say that? Is this a strategy from a faction inside those “in the know” because something else is in the offing? Is this apart of an old plan or a new move?

In terms of UFO disclosure, the “powers that be” follow a pattern of revealing and denying information to society as Randy Koppang and Grant Cameron would likely agree. They usually reveal something to one or a few individuals and later deny it after these individuals have been used to deliver a message to society. But this time they would be denying a whole team of intelligence- savy VIPs gathered in TTSA.

A few days before, another letter by Mrs. Gough (in response to an SCU (Scientific Coalition for Ufology request) publicly shared by Mr. Greenwald) stated that the U.S. Navy only had the “source” videos similar in quality and in length of the 3 videos shown to the public through TTSA (“GIMBAL” “GO FAST” and “FLIR 1”). That these were not classified. She doesn’t actually deny that there may be full-length and higher quality “original ” videos somewhere else but seems to be minimizing or trying to minimize expectations from the general public regarding what the U.S. Navy (and, by extrapolation, the Government in general) may have.

What is happening here?

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LINK to John Greenwald’s report in The Black Vault:

The Pentagon Corrects Record on “Secret UFO Program”

The Navy Has Admitted That UFOs Exist – Will USOs Be Next?

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Article by Alex Hollings                       October 9, 2019                     (sofrep.com)

• In September, the US Navy confirmed that while the Navy videos of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (or UFOs) were not meant for release to the public, they were authentic. John Greenewald, Jr of ‘The Black Vault’ website was the man that got the Navy to discuss the videos, leading to the video confirmation. The Navy, however, didn’t know what these phenomenon were.

• Similarly, there is another unusual phenomenon that gets far less attention in the press: ‘Unidentified Submerged Objects’. A ‘USO’ is a catch-all term used to describe anything seen operating beneath the surface of water that defies explanation. Legends of USOs have permeated the maritime community for centuries. Many UFO witness, including military aviators, have suggested that UFOs operate just as well underwater as they do in the sky.

• Christopher Columbus reported seeing a USO sighting during his 1492 voyage to the New World. According to Columbus’ log, he spotted “a small wax candle that rose and lifted up, which too few seemed to be an indication of land.” They soon determined that it wasn’t a light source from land, but had instead come from the sea.
• In 1967, witnesses in Shag Harbor, Nova Scotia Canada, reported a UFO crashing into the harbor’s waters. The Royal Canadian Mounted Police launched rescue efforts for a ‘downed aircraft’, which turned up nothing.

• Earlier this year, Tylor Rogoway of ‘The War Zone’ website interviewed veteran U.S. Navy submariners, some of whom were SONAR operators with first-hand experience spotting these USO anomalies. That story can be traced back to Marc D’Antonio who, during a ‘courtesy ride’ on a U.S. Navy fast attack submarine, watched as the sub’s sonar operator detected a “fast mover” moving at hundreds of knots under the water in close proximity. Such a scenario of a fast moving, unidentified underwater object spotted by Navy personnel and then disregarded, rings true with veteran American submariners. Said one former submariner, “We were instructed that nothing is ever ‘unknown.” “[So] we usually logged it as seismic or biologic.”

• Such underwater anomalies typically go ignored unless they represent a threat to the vessel or an obstacle to the crew. The ocean is full of man made ships and living creatures. So encountering ‘strange’ objects is just a part of business when you’re operating a fast attack sub. One infamous unexplained ocean phenomena was the “Bloop” – a massive underwater sound recorded in 1997. (see 3:37 minute video of the “Bloop” below) The Bloop sound was so loud that it was recorded simultaneously on underwater microphones located more than 3,000 miles apart.

• As a policy, the Navy doesn’t investigate strange sonar readings, so unusual underwater phenomenon largely go unreported so long as it doesn’t interfere with the mission. But sub-mariner accounts confirm that ‘weird stuff’ is normal in the dark depths of Earth’s oceans. But ‘weird’ doesn’t necessarily mean alien, it just means unexplained… for now.

 

Last month, the United States Navy confirmed formally that two high profile videos allegedly captured from the nose of an F/A-18 Super Hornet attempting an intercept on an Unidentified Aerial Phenomena were real and notably, weren’t meant for release to the public. The Navy did not suggest that the strange craft shown in the videos was alien in origin, but rather did acknowledge that they truly didn’t know what they were seeing that night in January of 2015.

“I truly thought the official word on these videos would be ‘drones’ or something similar; but explainable,” John Greenewald, Jr, who runs the popular website The Black Vault, told SOFREP at the time. Greenewald was the man that got the Navy to discuss the videos, leading to a landslide of headlines throughout the media in the weeks that followed.
“We have official documents that have surfaced through FOIA that state just that. However, for the Navy to contradict that, and say that this ‘phenomena’ represents something ‘unidentified’ – that’s pretty amazing to me and proves yet again why we can’t lock ourselves into any one way of thinking or assume anything.”

Reports of unusual lights in the sky date all the way back to the beginning of recorded history, but there’s another unusual phenomena that often seems to coincide with these strange sightings that gets far less attention in the press: USOs, or Unidentified Submerged Objects. Like UFOs (Unidentified Flying Objects), USO is a sort of catch-all term used to describe anything seen operating beneath the surface of a body of water that defies explanation. Legends of USOs have permeated the maritime community for centuries, and remain a common facet of discussion among UFO researchers to this day. In fact, many UFO witness statements, including those provided by military aviators, have suggested that the unusual crafts they’ve spotted flying in the sky seem to operate just as readily in the far denser medium of water — suggesting that these unusual objects can function beneath the surface of the ocean just as well as they can in the air.

3:37 minute video of “the Bloop” sounds from the Deep Pacific Ocean (‘AS N’ YouTube)

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Navy’s Attitude About Releasing UFO Videos More Disturbing Than the Videos

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Article by Thomas L. Knapp                 September 25, 2019                  (duluthnewstribune.com)

• The US Navy recently confirmed that three online videos of military jet encounters with UAPs: ‘unidentified aerial phenomenon’ are authentic. But what is more disturbing is that the Navy seems less concerned with the UAPs themselves, than with the notion that the videos, while not classified, had not been “cleared for public release”. A Pentagon spokesperson told The Black Vault website, “The videos were never officially released to the general public by the (Department of Defense) and should still be withheld.”

• The oldest ‘Tic Tac’ UFO video is from 2004. Now, 15 years later the Navy still hasn’t determined what these UAPs are. But the Navy’s biggest concern is that the videos were released? The videos are not “confidential,” “secret,” or “top secret,” based on degrees of potential damage to national security. No such long-term category as “not cleared for public release” should exist with respect to information generated or acquired by the government.

• If the government works for the people, why should it keep so many secrets from the people in the first place? There should be a time limit in which any given piece of information must either be classified or made available to the public. All government information not classified within 30 days of its creation or acquisition should be stored in databases that the public can search at will. Concealing information from the public should be incredibly difficult — not a matter of course. “Not cleared for public release” shouldn’t exist as a new category.

• UFOs may be extraterrestrial in origin. The public needs more information. But it shouldn’t be the government’s prerogative to conceal such information from the rest of us indefinitely, tell us tall tales about weather balloons and swamp gas, and offer lame “national security” excuses when called out. A bigger problem than determining what these UFOs are may be the how the post-World War II national security state apparatus has developed a culture of general secrecy that we accommodate at our peril.

 

The U.S. Navy confirms that three online videos showing two military air encounters with what it calls “unexplained aerial phenomena” and the rest of us call “unidentified flying objects” are authentic, as Popular Mechanics reported.

The videos are interesting, and some might find them disturbing. What’s more disturbing to me is that the Navy thinks the videos are none of our business, not even 15, or even four, years after they were recorded in 2004 and 2015.
Pentagon spokesperson Susan Gough told The Black Vault website, “The videos were never officially released to the general public by the DoD (U.S. Department of Defense) and should still be withheld.”

The videos aren’t classified. They just haven’t been “cleared for public release.”

No such long-term category as “not cleared for public release” should exist with respect to information generated or acquired by government.

There are legal standards for “classifying” information as “confidential,” “secret,” or “top secret,” based on supposed degrees of damage to national security disclosure of the information might cause.

I’m personally against allowing the state to keep secrets at all. They claim to work for us. If we’re really their bosses, we should get to look over their shoulders any time we please.

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