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What We Know About The Army Teaming Up With Rockstar Tom DeLonge’s UFO Research Company

October 19, 2019
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Article by Joseph Trevithick October 17, 2019 (thedrive.com)

• In a press release on October 17th, Tom Delonge’s ‘To the Stars Academy’ (or “TTSA”) announced a cooperative research deal with the US Army. They plan to combine their resources in researching metamaterials and other high technology fields that border on the realm of science fiction. It is called the ‘Cooperative Research and Development Agreement’ or “CRADA” and ultimately falls under the Army’s ‘Futures Command’. It will be handled through the ‘Ground Vehicle System Center’ in Warren, Michigan.

• The Army’s Deputy Product Manager for Science and Technology at the Army’s Ground Vehicle Systems Center, Dr. Joseph Cannon said, “Our partnership with TTSA serves as an exciting, non-traditional source for novel materials and transformational technologies to enhance our military ground system capabilities.” “[W]e look forward to this partnership and the potential technical innovations forthcoming.” More specifically, the Army is interested in cutting-edge developments in material science such as active camouflage, space-time metric engineering, quantum physics, and beamed energy propulsion.

• The press release mentions “novel materials” possessed by TTSA that could refer to certain ‘metamaterials’ – i.e.: engineered composites that have structural and conductive properties alien to this planet. In a 2018 SEC filing, TTSA reported paying EarthTech International, Inc. $25,000 on a “beamed energy propulsion launch system” and $35,000 for a “material analysis” program which included the “scientific evaluation of materials samples the company obtained through reliable reports of advanced aerospace vehicles of unknown origin.”

• In July 2019, TTSA announced that it had acquired metamaterials as part of its Acquisition and Data Analysis of Materials program, or ADAM. They claim that these metamaterials of unknown origin have been floating around the UFO community for years. The were originally given to paranormal radio host Art Bell, who gave them to Linda Moulton Howe, who passed them along to Tom DeLonge, who sold them to TTSA for $35,000. Earlier this month, TTSA official Luis Elizondo told Fox News’ Tucker Carlson that the organization was already conducting tests on these objects.

• It is unclear whether TTSA has actually developed any advanced technology from its research to date, but they do have the resources at their disposal to make the US Army take them seriously. Chief Operating Officer Steve Justice, who is coordinating the effort between TTSA, the Army, and EarthTech International, had previously worked at Lockheed Martin’s Skunk Works research facility. EarthTech’s founder and President is Hal Puthoff, Ph.D, who is also TTSA’s Vice President of Science & Technology. Puthoff worked for the CIA and the DIA on paranormal research including remote viewing, and has studied UFOs, extraterrestrials, and the Skinwalker Ranch.

• Former Skinwalker Ranch owner and billionaire, Robert Bigelow of Bigelow Aerospace has also been affiliated with TTSA since the days of working with Luis Elizondo under the Pentagon’s ‘Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program’ UFO study project and its’ predecessor, the DIA’s ‘Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications’ program. Bigelow is renowned for his interest in UFOs and paranormal phenomena. Under these programs, Bigelow hired Puthoff and Eric Davis, Ph.D. of EarthTech International to author research reports on advanced technology, including virtually all of the topics mentioned in the TTSA press release regarding CRADA. Mainstream scientists have deemed these advanced technologies as “junk science”.

• Under this ‘Cooperative Research and Development Agreement’ no money is exchanged between the Army and TTSA. And there will likely be no end product. The research will only yield studies and reports. So what does DeLonge and his curious group of decorated insiders from the military-industrial complex and the intelligence services expect to get from this partnership? TTSA’s COO Steve Justice said, “While the Army has specific military performance interests in the research, much of the work is expected to have dual-use application in support of TTSA’s path to commercialization and public benefit mission.” TTSA bills itself as a “revolutionary collaboration between academia, industry and pop culture to advance society’s understanding of scientific phenomena and its technological implications.” This collaboration certainly raises the profile of TTSA which is at the center of a History Channel series on UFOs and has recently announced a new round of stock offers worth up to $30 million. But the Academy’s Entertainment Division is also poised to exploit the potential commercial value of any technology breakthroughs.

The U.S. Army has confirmed that it has signed a cooperative research deal with former Blink 182 frontman Tom DeLonge’s To The Stars Academy of Arts & Science, more commonly known as TTSA. Far better known for its activities investigating reports and sightings of UFOs, which are increasingly referred to as unidentified aerial phenomena, or UAPs, this new agreement covers research into metamaterials and other high technology fields that border on the realm of science fiction.

**Tom DeLonge** *(Photo by Joby Sessions/Total Guitar Magazine via Getty Images)*

On Oct. 17, 2019, TTSA announced the Cooperative Research and Development Agreement (CRADA) with Army’s Combat Capabilities Development Command (CCDC), which is now part of that service’s Futures Command. The public affairs office at CCDC’s Ground Vehicle System Center (GVSC), situated at the Detroit Arsenal in Warren, Michigan, subsequently confirmed to The War Zone that this CRADA exists and that it will be responsible for executing it.

CRADAs are unlike typical contracts and “no money exchanging hands at all” between the Army and TTSA under this present agreement, a public affairs officer at the GVSC told The War Zone. There is also “no articulated deliverable” and if a product comes out of this process, it will most likely be a written study or another similar type of report.

The ostensible goal is for Army researchers to work directly with individuals from TTSA in exploring various high technology developments, sharing resources, and any results. “TTSA’s technology solutions, which leverage developments in material science, space-time metric engineering, quantum physics, beamed energy propulsion, and active camouflage, have the potential to enhance survivability and effectiveness of multiple Army systems,” TTSA’s own press release says.

TTSA bills itself as a “revolutionary collaboration between academia, industry and pop culture to advance society’s understanding of scientific phenomena and its technological implications.” It also has an Entertainment Division that publishes works of fiction about UFOs and the paranormal, serves as the holder of intellectual property rights related to DeLonge’s new band, Angels & Airwaves, and is responsible for merchandising associated with all of these enterprises. The actual origins of the organization are murky, to say the least.

“Our partnership with TTSA serves as an exciting, non-traditional source for novel materials and transformational technologies to enhance our military ground system capabilities,” Dr. Joseph Cannon, the Deputy Product Manager for Science and Technology in the Vehicle Protection Systems division of GVSC, said in a statement. “At the Army’s Ground Vehicle Systems Center, we look forward to this partnership and the potential technical innovations forthcoming.”

This reference to “novel materials” strongly suggests that at least part of the CRADA is concerned with metamaterials. This term refers to engineered composites that have properties that do not appear in nature. It is the structure of these new materials, more than their composition that gives them these attributes, including the ability to have unique impacts on electromagnetic waves.

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DIA List of Exotic Propulsion Papers linked to Mars Colony Recruitment

January 24, 2019
Michael Salla

Laura Magdalene Eisenhower, great granddaughter of President Dwight Eisenhower, claims that from April 2006 to January 2007, she and a friend were the targets of a covert recruitment effort to be taken to a future Mars colony to escape imminent catastrophic earth events. Laura Eisenhower says that despite her repeated refusals, she was subjected to different forms of pressure by individuals associated with the Mars colony project, the head of which she claimed was famed physicist, Dr. Hal Puthoff.

Puthoff’s involvement in an alleged Mars colony recruitment project that targeted Eisenhower and her friend takes on particular significance with the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) releasing a list of 38 Defense Intelligence Reference Documents (DIRD) studying the feasibility of exotic propulsion and energy technologies. The DIA documents date back to 2007 when funding was first made available for the creation of the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) through the Senate Majority Leader at the time, Harry Reid.

It’s more than coincidental that Eisenhower and her friend’s experiences overlapped with the beginning of the AATIP program, which funded advanced propulsion technology studies with the $22 million provided by the U.S. Congress. The money was sent to the Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies (BAASS), which in turn funded studies by researchers and their affiliated institutions.

The most prominent of these was EarthTech International which was founded by Puthoff in Austin, Texas with a focus on exotic technology research as explained on their website:

The Institute for Advanced Studies at Austin was founded in 1985 by Harold Puthoff, PhD, and later incorporated under EarthTech International, Inc., in 1991 as an innovative research facility with a high‐powered creative staff dedicated to exploring the forefront reaches of science and engineering. Our research interests include theories of spacetime, gravity and cosmology; studies of the quantum vacuum; modifications of standard theories of electrodynamics; interstellar flight science; and the Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence, specifically as these topics may apply to developing innovative space propulsion and sources of energy. We strive to translate these ideas into laboratory experiments.

Senator Reid’s decision to fund AATIP, the prominent role of Robert Bigelow (billionaire founder of BAASS) in directing the funding to research institutions such as EarthTech International, suggest that there was a shared interest among Reid, Bigelow and Puthoff in the idea of establishing a Mars colony to survive future cataclysmic Earth events.

According to Eisenhower’s testimony, which appears in interviews and an extensive online report released in February 2010, the planned Mars colony needed her and others to seed the colony which would survive the predicted cataclysms. She became romantically involved with an Agent X [whose identity she wishes to withhold for his protection] in April 2006, who was the key intermediary in the recruitment effort.

Agent X was closely associated with Puthoff’s EarthTech International, as Eisenhower explained:

Regarding the group he [Agent X] mentioned, he believed that he had joined a sort of thinktank, an investigative group, which was also working on creating a mission to Mars. He kept telling me of the cataclysms that were coming and that this was something we were special to be involved in.

Agent X very much thought that the people he was dealing with were good guys and his physicist adviser [Dr. Hal Puthoff] was his hero because of the zero point energy, remote viewing stuff he was involved in. He tried to get me excited, saying that we had a chance to escape the disaster.

It should be noted that Puthoff is widely credited with establishing the remote viewing program at Stanford Research Institute that received funding from the DIA and the U.S. intelligence community from 1970 up to 1994, when the DIA decided to stop funding for reasons best explained by the veteran remote viewer, Joseph McMoneagle.

Eisenhower says that her family bloodline and metaphysical connection to a “Christ-Sophia” archetype of feminine energy, made her and her young twin sons highly desirable recruits for the launch of the future Mars colony. She was subsequently targeted in an elaborate honeypot operation involving an Agent X:

It just did not sit well with me, but he wouldn’t talk further, and I just hoped it would all fade away as our love would become much more important. At this time, I had no idea the power they had over him, or that they were even using anything on him to keep him as an agent and almost a servant to their mission. I was blinded by love too, and I just wanted to not think about it till it came up again. I later found out that they had sent him to find me….

The agency that sent him to find me, or the other groups he was involved in who held my story in their awareness for many lifetimes, I wasn’t sure who he was speaking on behalf of regarding Sophia or my boys – because I believed I was a person of interest for the agency and was recruited to Mars because of my Eisenhower bloodline. I suppose the reasons were both.

Direct corroboration for Eisenhower’s claims comes from a former friend, Ki’ Lia, who was similarly targeted in the Mars recruitment effort, and eventually wrote about it in a detailed online report called “2012 Earth Timelines and the Secret Mars Agenda” that was released around the same time of Eisenhower’s report in February 2010.

Especially important was an extensive number of research papers that Eisenhower and Ki’ Lia say they were given access to by the Mars colony team headed by Dr. Puthoff. Ki’ Lia wrote:

I was sent for review many scientific documents about the key technology components:

propellantless propulsion or faster-than-light warp drive
plasma ion fusion
ultraconductors

As well as regarding:

vehicle design, land, air and aquatic robotic rovers
artificial intelligence
advanced communications and knowledge transfer
architectural compositions and other capacities to terraform and replenish life on Mars

I also was asked to look into other aerospace academies, virtual reality, psychotronic weapons, invisible shielding and a whole spectrum of exotic, quantum access technologies.

What is remarkable here is the number of advanced technology topics she mentioned in her 2010 report that match many of the studies in the list of 38 Defense Intelligence Reference Documents (DIRD) released eight years later in 2018.

Even more significant is that six of the 38 DIRD papers identified in the DIA list had as their primary authors scientists affiliated with EarthTech International.

The six papers with EarthTech International scientists as primary authors deal with a variety of energy and propulsion systems associated with space travel in general. These topics would be critical for future Mars missions and establishing a colony there.

The EarthTech papers in the DIA list are identified with the security marking UNCLASSIFIED/FOR OFFICIAL USE ONLY, along with the name of the lead author and where they appear in the sequence of 38 documents:

5. Advanced Space Propulsion Based on Vacuum (Spacetime Metric) Engineering, Dr. Hal Puthoff …

8. Traversable Wormholes, Stargates, and Negative Energy, Dr. Eric Davis …

11. Antigravity for Aerospace Applications, Dr Eric Davis …

14. Concepts for Extracting Energy from the Quantum Vacuum, Dr. Eric Davis …

31. Laser Lightcraft Nanosatellites, Dr. E. Davis …

34. Quantum Tomography of Negative Energy Stats in the Vacuum, Dr. E. Davis.

So far three of the reference documents listed among the list of 38 confirmed by the DIA have been leaked to the public. These are documents #5 and #8 in the DIA list, which were first publicly released by Corey Goode on December 17, 2017; and document #19 which was released later by George Knapp on May 4, 2018. It is titled “Warp Drive, Dark Energy, and the Manipulation of Extra Dimensions” and its co-authors are Richard K. Obousy, Ph.D. and Eric Davis, Ph.D.

Consequently, out of the three papers that have been publicly released in their entirety, all list EarthTech scientists as first or second authors. We do not know if EarthTech scientists were involved in the remaining 31 documents since the DIA list only shows the first author. It is expected that further FOIA requests will lead to the release of all the unclassified documents on the list.

Of the seven DIRD documents authored by Earth Tech scientists, five of them deal with spacecraft and propulsion, while two deal with extracting energy from a vacuum. These would be highly desirable research areas to develop breakthroughs in order to establish a Mars colony as Eisenhower and Ki’Lia claimed.

Was EarthTech really intent on developing concepts for a future Mars colony, or merely creating a cover for an already existent Mars colony seeking new recruits from Earth?

Both Eisenhower and Ki’ Lia were unsure as to what the real agenda was in the covert effort to recruit them for a planned Mars colony, and they raised a number of possibilities in their respective reports.

There has been an extensive number of whistleblowers and insiders who have spoken about secret Mars bases and colonies already in existence by 2006. These include Corey Goode, Henry Deacon, Andrew Basiago, Michael Relfe and others. If they are correct, as I have concluded elsewhere, then it becomes clear that EarthTech was not really intending on their DIA reference documents being used to build propulsion technologies for a future Mars colony.

Goode in fact has said that the Mars colonies routinely use deception to attract Earth based recruits who are promised a futurist luxurious lifestyle on Mars, but instead are subjected to slave labor conditions soon after their arrival. Eisenhower had independently concluded that this would indeed have been the fate awaiting her two sons and her, along with Ki’Lia, if they had gone through with the recruitment process:

Over time the Mars issue became louder and louder. Ki’-Lia and he were working on plans to make this mission happen, but she realized his plans were dubious based on my observations and could only try to investigate more. She and I would talk more and more, and I would fill her in on my observations. I had dreams and premonitions that something was way off, and in one dream I got taken up by chains into a ship and a voice told me I had to make a choice about being with them or staying on Earth – and that they wouldn’t harm me but they would certainly control me.

Based on Eisenhower and Ki’ Lia’s reports, there appears to have been multiple purposes in the use of the DIRD papers prepared by EarthTech, and other exotic technology papers published over the years in a variety academic journals.

One was to use the 38 AATIP papers as a cover for exotic propulsion and energy technologies that had already been covertly developed by private industry, and were being used in secret space programs, and manned bases or colonies on the Moon and Mars. It should be noted that the $22 million provided in funds for the DIRD studies and related AATIP programs was the proverbial drop in the bucket for funding an actual Mars colony program. Thus AATIP was being used as a cover for an actual Mars colony program that was accepting recruits for new bases or colonies due to predicted Earth cataclysms makes a lot of sense.

A second purpose was to lure recruits to an already existing Mars colony by promising them a means of evacuating Earth prior to cataclysmic changes. As Eisenhower and Ki’ Lia suspected, and as Goode independently confirmed, the future Mars colony recruitment effort was a deception that would have drawn them into an already existing program, where they would have been ruthlessly exploited.

A third purpose was ritual based magic as Eisenhower, her twin sons and Ki’ Lia were viewed as archetypal representations of divine feminine energies and the mythical founders of Rome, Romulus and Remus. Basically, Mars was to become a new Rome from which imperial space power would be projected throughout the solar system, and beyond. In 2007, Richard Hoagland and Mike Bara exposed how ritual based magic is a prominent part of NASA missions, thereby suggesting that a similar process occurs in secret space programs.

Finally, the six EarthTech papers, along with the other 32 papers identified in the DIRD list, had the purpose of getting white world scientists and the general public up to speed on some of the technologies that have already been developed and are being used in secret space programs. This, according to Goode, was the reason why he was given two of the 38 DIA documents, as previously discussed, and released them to the general public.

The recent confirmation by the Defense Intelligence Agency of a list of 38 reference documents, corroborates key elements of Eisenhower and Ki’ Lia’s controversial claims about being targets for a covert recruitment project for a Mars colony. The EarthTech International research papers they were shown as part of this process closely matched topics covered in the DIRD papers funded by Reid and the U.S. Congress, through Robert Bigelow’s BAASS.

The concerns raised by Eisenhower and Ki Lia in their respective reports about the Mars recruitment effort and the role played by Puthoff’s EarthTech International appear to be valid. This requires further investigation of the role played by Puthoff, Davis, Reid and Bigelow in developing exotic technology ideas to escape predicted Earth cataclysms, and/or being involved in finding recruits for a covert Mars Colony program.

These Are Real Pentagon Reports On Warp Drive, Extra Dimensions, Anti-Gravity, And More

May 26, 2018
ExoNews Editor

by Tyler Rogoway and Joseph Trevithick May 11, 2018 (thedrive.com)

• A pair of official Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) documents have come to light showing the military’s keen interest in subjects such as warp drive propulsion, extra-dimensional manipulation, dark energy, and other highly exotic forms of space travel. The documents were first posted by Corey Goode late in 2017, and are now again revealed by George Knapp’s I-Team, part of Las Vegas CBS affiliate Channel 8 News, which has been investigating the government’s supposed connection with ‘UFOs’ for decades.

• Knapp has been digging deeper into Las Vegas-based Bigelow Aerospace, founded by UFO enthusiast Robert Bigelow, which was awarded the contract for the Pentagon’s Advanced Aviation Threat Identification Program (AAITP), a $22 million classified program supporting a team of nearly 50 scientists, analysts, and investigators that investigated UFO sightings between 2008 and 2012.

• A March 29, 2010 study dealt with “advanced space propulsion” for faster-than-light travel, “space-time altered regions”, and “gravity/antigravity” forces. “This paper has considered the possibility—even likelihood—that future developments with regard to advanced aerospace technologies will trend in the direction of manipulating the underlying space-time structure of the vacuum of space itself by processes that can be called vacuum engineering or metric engineering.” This study was authored at the time by Austin-based EarthTech International, Inc. CEO Harold Puthoff, Ph.D for the Pentagon program.

• An April 2, 2010 study covered similar ground, but also included discussions about “dark energy” and “extra dimensions.” This document states, “The idea that a sufficiently advanced technology may interact with, and acquire direct control over, the higher dimensions is a tantalizing possibility, and one that is most certainly worthy of deeper investigation.” Eric Davis, Ph.D., working with a prior Bigelow company National Institute for Discovery Science, authored this study along with independent consultant Richard Obousy.

• “These studies are so loaded with information,” said Senator Reid who sponsored the Pentagon program. “One thing we learned is over the decades a lot of things happen there’s no explanation for. Well there are now.” However, neither report suggests that the technology they described was anywhere near practical or that any foreign government was close to achieving a relevant breakthrough.

• Harold Puthoff is now VP of Science and Technology at To The Stars Academy of Arts and Science, a non-profit organization in Encinitas, California that reportedly is, at least in part, continuing the AAITP’s work independently. Luis Elizondo, who was the head of the AAITP Pentagon program, is now the To The Stars Academy’s Director of Global Security and Special Programs.

• A pair of DoD military videos showing ‘tic-tac’ shaped UFOs recorded by Navy F/A-18 fighter jets had been floating around in in the Pentagon’s AAITP (previously known as Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications) and in defense circles for over a decade. To The Stars Academy was instrumental in publically releasing these UFO videos in December 2017. (See original NY Times article) Open disclosure about the origin of the video on an official level, as well as subsequent interviews with the pilot that took it, elevated it to mainstream news.

• Bigelow’s special unit’s investigation concludes that the Pentagon’s AAITProgram went far beyond documenting and evaluating reports of UFOs. It took a holistic approach, evaluating the impact on human biology in association with UFO sightings, and delved into other paranormal domains. It also claims to be storing mysterious material from downed UFOs. The depth of the government’s investigation of UFO technology leaves us wondering what hasn’t been revealed, whether out of fear of embarrassment or risk to national security.

The modern understanding of the Pentagon’s relationship with unexplained flying phenomena has become remarkably more pointed in the last six months since the Advanced Aviation Threat Identification Program was uncovered. Its disclosure came in between our own exclusive reporting on two very strange and well-documented encounters with strange aircraft operating in U.S. airspace. Now, new documents are coming to light that show the Department of Defense’s own spy agency was also interested in subjects that border on science fiction and the even the paranormal, including warp drive, extra-dimensional manipulation, dark energy, and other highly exotic forms of space travel.

The documents were first discovered by George Knapp’s I-Team, part of Las Vegas CBS affiliate Channel 8 News, which has been investigating the government’s supposed connection with ‘UFOs’ for decades.

Author’s note 5/14/18: It has come to our attention that the documents were in fact first posted by Corey Goode late last year shortly after the Advanced Aviation Threat Identification Program was first disclosed.

Recently Knapp has been digging deeper into Bigelow Aerospace—which is located in Las Vegas—and its starring role in the previously classified program. It is no secret that Robert Bigelow, a former real estate developer turned inflatable space station entrepreneur, has been highly interested in UFOs, but the depth of the company’s official relationship with the Defense Department regarding the topic was something entirely unheard of before the disclosure of the Defense Intelligence Agency’s (DIA) Advanced Aviation Threat Identification Program occurred in December 2017.

Abbreviated AATIP, that effort, and its funding, sprang from Nevada Senator Harry Reid’s interest in the topic, along with that of a Defense Intelligence Agency official. The program, which eventually cost $22 million and ran roughly between 2008 and 2012, began after Bigelow won the contract, apparently to investigate UFO sightings, along with pretty much everything else that goes along with the topic for better or worse, on behalf of the military.

A team of nearly 50 scientists, analysts, and investigators were assembled to work on the program, which was originally and very cryptically dubbed the Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications (AAWSA) Program before gaining its more recent moniker. The contract between the DIA and Bigelow made sure not to spell out its focus, instead referring to exotic technologies without mentioning UFOs.

The I-Team writes: “The agreement with DIA did not mention UFOs at all. It used more generic terms such as future threats and breakthrough technologies, and specified 12 focal points including, lift, propulsion, materials, versions of stealth as well as human interface and human effects.”

It was under the AAWSA name that the organization funded at least two studies into advanced propulsion and space technology research that border on the fantastical. The first of these studies, dated March 29, 2010, deals with “advanced space propulsion” for faster-than-light travel, discussing theoretical physical constructs such as “spacetime-altered regions” and “gravity/antigravity” forces. The second study, which the AAWSA program published on April 2, 2010, covers similar ground, but also includes discussions about “dark energy” and “extra dimensions.”

The AAWSA experts did this work under the auspices of DIA’s Defense Warning Office, which makes good sense, at least conceptually. This organization first came into being in 2002 and is “charged with identifying sources of increasing threats to U.S. interests in critical regions,” according to an official briefing.

“This office will also identify opportunities to affect adversary behavior prior to and in the early stages of a crisis.” that presentation notes. In 2003, these tasks expanded to also include work “to provide the earliest possible warning of technological developments that could undermine U.S. military preeminence.”

UFO sightings are often indications of advanced and secret military aircraft research and development projects. Having a team of experts try and determine if any of the reports translated to real programs, especially those that potential opponents such as Russia or China might have been working on, would be well with DIA’s mandate for the office.

That AAWSA team would have delved into known developments in associated fields would also make sense in this context. If America’s adversaries were rapidly advancing toward practical warp drives and other advanced propulsion and space research, DIA would definitely want to know in order to help inform U.S. policy responses.

“These studies are so loaded with information,” Senator Reid reportedly said at one point, according to Las Vegas’ Channel 8. “One thing we learned is over the decades a lot of things happen there’s no explanation for. Well there are now.”

Here is a 2:15-minute video clip from a May 28, 2017 60 Minutes segment with
Robert Bigelow that was filmed before revelations of his involvement
with the Pentagon’s Aviation Threat Identification program