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UFO Researcher Explains Why She Sold ‘Exotic Meta-Material’ to Tom DeLonge

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Article By MJ Banias                         November 14, 2019                         (vice.com)

• In October 2019, Tom DeLonge’s ‘To The Stars Academy’ entered into a partnership with the US Army to study an exotic ‘meta-material’. (See previous ExoArticle here) So where did this exotic material come from?

• In the summer of 1947, (just prior to the infamous Roswell crash of July 4, 1947) locals found a wedge-shaped craft that had crashed near the White Sands proving grounds in New Mexico where two dead aliens were discovered and one that was still alive. One local man yanked a piece of the metal off of the craft as a souvenir. The man gave the piece of metal to his grandson who became a sergeant in the US Army. In 1996, this anonymous sergeant turned the metal over to Art Bell, the late host of Coast to Coast AM, and investigative journalist and UFO researcher Linda Moulton Howe (pictured above).

• Moulton Howe took the piece of bismuth magnesium alloy to Carnegie Science’s Department of Technical Magnetism to have it assessed. The findings at the time were inconclusive. Then she took the metal sample to the chair of the Institute of Advanced Studies in Austin Texas, Dr. Hal Puthoff. Again, the tests were inconclusive. Puthoff did suggest that another test could be done with special instrumentation. It was hypothesized that if you blasted the metal with enough terahertz of magnetic field energy, it would cause it to float. Tom Delonge repeated this in a podcast interview with Joe Rogan.

• Moulton Howe allowed ‘To The Stars Academys’ scientists, including Puthoff, further attempts to test the metal without success. Then in July 2018, ‘To The Stars’ COO and former director of Lockheed Martin’s Skunkworks, Steve Justice gave Moulton Howe a phone call. Justice said that the US Army might be interested in studying the metals. The US Army Ground Vehicle Systems Center had a Materials Analysis and Electro-Magnetic Spectrum laboratory. The Army was interested in blasting the meta-material with magnetic fields to elicit a “demonstrable physical phenomena.” ‘To The Stars Academy’ would partner with the US Army, and they hoped that Moulton Howe would come to San Diego and deliver the piece to them. The Army wanted to apply any resulting physical phenomenon to its ground vehicle applications.

• Moulton Howe estimated that she’d spent about $900 to $2,000 a year from 1996 to 2019 “in all the various things that I’ve done.” Finally, she decided that her only option was to sell the pieces of metal to ‘To The Stars’ and the US Army. Said Moulton Howe, “I don’t want to stop what may be the only way they’re going to be able to test this.” She offered the metal for $35,000, which the buyers considered a low figure. In its September 2019 SEC filings, ‘To The Stars’ reported that it had paid $35,000 for ‘exotic’ meta-materials in July.

• Downplaying the exotic nature of this meta-material, Dr. Chris Cogswell, a PhD in Chemical Engineering who hosts the Mad Scientist Podcast said that he believes that this type of ‘exotic’ metal alloy is “made by mistake in metallurgy facilities all the time” by using magnesium to remove bismuth according to the Betterton-Kroll process.

 

The UFO researcher who sold bits of ‘exotic’ metal to former Blink-182 singer turned UFO mogul Tom DeLonge for $35,000 explained to Motherboard why she parted with the artifact and what will happen to it now.

In 2017, the New York Times ran an article about a secret Pentagon UFO program known as the “Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program.” The article noted that aerospace billionaire Robert Bigelow, whose interest in UFOs is no secret, modified buildings to house “metal alloys and other materials…that [allegedly] had been recovered from unidentified aerial phenomena.” Earlier this year, DeLonge’s UFO outfit To The Stars Academy paid $35,000 for ‘exotic’ metamaterials according to its September SEC filings.

Linda Moulton Howe with Art Bell

TTSA bought the metals from Linda Moulton Howe, a UFO researcher, in order to “conduct rigorous scientific evaluations to determine its function and possible applications,” the company said in a press release in July. In October, the company entered into a partnership with the US Army to research the metal and also study some pretty wild science, such as active camouflage, inertial mass reduction, and quantum communication.

             Dr Hal Puthoff

In an interview, Moulton Howe said that she and Art Bell, the late host of Coast to Coast AM, acquired the metal in 1996, along with a handful of letters from an alleged sergeant in the United States Army who still remains anonymous. Moulton Howe has made some pretty wild claims about the metal: She says that the sergeant’s grandfather yanked the metal off a wedge-shaped craft that crashed in 1947 near the White Sands proving grounds in New Mexico. She has also publicly claimed that the crash recovery team discovered two dead aliens and one that was still alive.

Moulton Howe and DeLonge both believe that, by blasting the metals with a magnetic field, it will float: “They had a piece and they explored whether magnetic fields would cause it to turn into a lifting body. Different frequencies,” Moulton Howe said. These are the same materials mentioned by DeLonge on his Joe Rogan interview where he stated, “if you hit it with enough terahertz, it’ll float.”

In any case, the metal is of interest to not only DeLonge and Moulton Howe, but also to the US Army, which told Motherboard that it would be studying metals like it by blasting it with magnetic fields and looking for “demonstrable physical phenomena.”

“The USG and US Army Ground Vehicle Systems Center has broad ranging Materials Analysis and Electro-Magnetic Spectrum laboratory capabilities at our disposal,” Jerry Aliotta, a U.S. Army spokesperson, told Motherboard. “There are materials and technologies of interest that TTSA possesses that we will evaluate and exploit.”

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Top-Secret Government Investigation ‘Probed Health Effects of UFO Encounters’

by Jasper Hamill                   April 8, 2019                     (metro.co.uk)

• The list of titles to the 38 declassified documents generated under the Advanced Aerospace Threat and Identification Program (AATIP) that were released last year show that investigators studied ‘exotic technologies including wormholes, antigravity, invisibility cloaking, warp drives and high energy laser weapons’. Now it’s claimed that AATIP also explored the health ‘consequences’ suffered by people who witnessed UFO incidents.

• One of the studies was called ‘Field Effects on Biological Tissues’. Former head of the Ministry of Defence’s UFO investigation desk, Nick Pope, says that this is likely to be the paper which explored the health effects of close encounters. Pope also points to a statement made by AATIP scientist Dr Hal Puthoff, speaking of a Brazilian Air Force investigation that included “…a lot of medical injuries when people encountered these (UFO) craft at close range.” Pope says that this is confirmation that the Pentagon’s AATIP program looked not only at UFOs but also at close encounters and alien abductions.

• Pope goes on to say, “I can’t prove it, but from sources close to this I’m almost certain that part of this work involved getting blood and DNA samples from close encounter witnesses – including at least one and maybe two witnesses to the UK’s infamous Rendlesham Forest incident.” “I believe this was done in a way that disguised the fact that this was for a US intelligence program, with witnesses being told that they were participating in a scientific or academic study.”

 

The classified study was called the Advanced Aerospace Threat and Identification Program (AATIP) and investigated mysterious aircraft or other unexplained phenomena. Official documents reveal that investigators studied ‘exotic technologies’ including wormholes, antigravity, invisibility cloaking, warp drives and high energy laser weapons. Now it’s been claimed that AATIP explored the health ‘consequences’ suffered by people who witnessed UFO incidents.

                                Nick Pope

Details of 38 papers published during the AATIP probe were released last year, although only a handful of the actual documents have been released to the public. One of the studies was called ‘Field Effects on Biological Tissues’. Nick Pope, who was head of the Ministry of Defence’s UFO investigation desk, said this is likely to be the paper which explored the health effects of close encounters. Pope pointed us to an article published on Las Vegas Now in which Dr Hal Puthoff, a scientist who worked on AATIP, said: ‘We as part of this program looked at some cases that were really good from Brazil. ‘In 1977, 78, it was like Close Encounters of the Third Kind, a thousand pages of documents all done by the Brazilian Air Force investigative team, 500 photographs, 15 hours of motion film, a lot of medical injuries when people encountered these craft at close range.’ Pope told Metro the statement is ‘confirmation that the Pentagon’s AATIP program looked not only at UFOs but also at close encounters and alien abductions’. He said: ‘I can’t prove it, but from sources close to this I’m almost certain that part of this work involved getting blood and DNA samples from close encounter witnesses – including at least one and maybe two witnesses to the UK’s infamous Rendlesham Forest incident.

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Fox Network TV Producer Files Lawsuit Against CIA ‘Disinformation’ Scientist and Antigravity/UFO Research Firm

by Rob McConnell                   March 8, 2019                   (cdnmediaservices.com)

• Veteran Fox Network UFO investigative television producer, Robert C. Kiviat, has filed a lawsuit in California for $300,000 in unpaid employment compensation for work done on behalf of an advanced physics firm called InterNASA since 2018. Named in his lawsuit are InterNASA, its’ CEO Joe Firmage, longtime CIA scientist Ron Pandolfi who is working with InterNASA, and investor Daniel Marriott, a Utah Congressman. Kiviat’s media division, InterNASA Studios, would be a news and entertainment entity for informing the public about the implications of Pandolfi’s gravity-control research, and ultimately the building of an anti-gravity device.

• Kiviat says he was “keenly aware that both a former Director of the NSA and a famous astronaut had moved into anti-gravity R&D upon leaving government service.” “So when InterNASA CEO Joe Firmage assured me he had secured the necessary funding and that Pandolfi was backing his gravity-control research, I accepted a position to oversee InterNASA’s Studios division.”

• Kiviat says that he performed multiple tasks for InterNASA, including corporate communications and investor relations, and he made multiple trips to New York to pitch a television series to two major TV Networks.

• But InterNASA ran into financial problems early on. Congressman Daniel Marriott kept coming up with reasons for holding up his investment payments, while threatening to pull out if they sought other investors. “It was this Catch-22 kind of dealing that basically strangled the company,” said Kiviat. “But Marriott did eventually make a minimum payment to keep InterNASA’s technological development going. Mariott paid me a small amount out of his own pocket to cover a tiny portion of my amassing InterNASA salary arrears.”

• In December 2017, when Firmage was recruiting Kiviat to oversee the media side of InterNASA, The New York Times ran the “Tic Tac” article about a UFO using advanced propulsion technology that easily outmaneuvered U.S. Navy pilots. The story and video came from Tom DeLonge’s ‘To The Stars Academy’ (TTSA). Former government scientist, Dr. Hal Puthoff, who now works with TTSA, was a paid consultant for Firmage when he was just beginning to work on the anti-gravity device a decade ago. Kiviat says, “Firmage asked me repeatedly if I knew of any actual technology that was being developed by… DeLonge and Puthoff. [W]hen I told him I didn’t, he indicated he felt Puthoff must have usurped his [anti-gravity] concept [that Firmage] had been talking about for years.” Kiviat says that the plan was for InterNASA to beat TTSA to the punch by getting news stories and a TV series made about anti-gravity technology ahead of them.

• By the middle of 2018, Kiviat was told that a “gravity control” demonstration was being planned with Pandolfi’s assistance in Colorado. But due to Firmage’s inability to meet certain deadlines, the demonstration was canceled. Kiviat was informed the company was going “dark” to work on the machine without distraction, and the “Media” side would be the last to be paid.

• “From that point on, I focused primarily on getting a TV deal,” said Kiviat, “since it seemed money would have to come in from some outside source to keep InterNASA going.” “[The] TV executives I met with in both Hollywood and New York showed a lot of interest, and these negotiations are continuing despite the lawsuit being filed. One way or another, I think the series I presented will get made, and it will be the most definitive and far-reaching TV project ever concerning UFOs, the subject’s connection to exotic propulsion systems and what the U.S. government knows about possible extraterrestrial visitation.”

• Kiviat sees his case having much more significance than simply being about receiving his fair compensation. “[T]he suit has the added value of exposing the way the U.S. intelligence agencies have seemingly manipulated the UFO community and… the general public for years. And to put it mildly, it stinks. Many good people have been damaged and it has to stop.” The lawsuit promises to pry open for the first time, via legal discovery, the inner workings behind CIA operations ostensibly led by Pandolfi comprising a decades-long disinformation campaign designed to influence and confuse the public about UFOs and exotic technologies. (Pandolfi once ran the CIA’s “Weird Desk”.)

• Kiviat is best known for his hit TV Specials ‘Alien Autopsy: Fact or Fiction?’, ‘UFOs: The Best Evidence Ever Caught On Tape’, ‘World’s Greatest Hoaxes: Secrets Finally Revealed’, and a 2014 TV Special ‘Aliens On The Moon: The Truth Exposed’ which unveiled never-before-seen NASA photos taken by Apollo astronauts that appear to show gigantic lunar constructions of unknown origin.

 

Robert C. Kiviat, the investigative producer best known for his hit TV Specials FOX Broadcasting aired along with their X-Files series such as Alien Autopsy: Fact or Fiction?, UFOs: The Best Evidence Ever Caught On Tape and World’s Greatest Hoaxes: Secrets Finally Revealed, has filed a lawsuit in California against longtime CIA scientist Ron Pandolfi, who ran the CIA’s “Weird Desk” and most recently has been backing InterNASA, an advanced physics firm also named in the lawsuit which Kiviat worked for under contract since 2018, but has yet to pay him.

                 Robert Kiviat

According to the Complaint filed last week, Kiviat – whose 2014 TV Special for NBC Universal’s Syfy channel, Aliens On The Moon: The Truth Exposed unveiled never-before-seen NASA photos taken by the Apollo astronauts that appear to show gigantic lunar constructions of unknown origin – is seeking $300,000 in employment salary arrears InterNASA presently owes him. The suit also promises to pry open for the first time, via legal discovery, the inner workings behind CIA operations ostensibly led by Pandolfi comprising a decades-long disinformation campaign designed to influence and confuse the public about UFOs – or exotic technologies – by manipulating researchers, and worse, lead those involved to lose money, and more, in the process.

“Covering UFOs and other unexplained topics for TV networks made me keenly aware that both a former Director of the National Security Agency (NSA) and a famous astronaut had moved into anti-gravity R & D upon leaving government service,” Kiviat says. “So when InterNASA CEO Joe Firmage assured me he had secured the necessary funding and that Pandolfi was backing his gravity-control research, I accepted a position to oversee InterNASA’s Studios division.” Kiviat adds that Pandolfi’s apparent support of the science behind Firmage’s device was independently corroborated by a prominent researcher and author giving lectures at packed UFO conferences throughout 2017, claiming he learned of it from a known Pandolfi operative.

The same month that Firmage was recruiting Kiviat to oversee InterNASA Studios – which Firmage envisioned as a news and entertainment entity for informing the public about the implications of his discovery – The New York Times ran a front-page article announcing that unidentified “Tic Tac” shaped aircraft had been caught on video by U.S. Navy pilots easily outmaneuvering our fastest jets with gravity-defying capability. These videos The Times wrote about were not released by the U.S. military, but by a company headed by former Blink 182 guitarist Tom DeLonge and Dr. Hal Puthoff, a scientist who had conducted government ESP research and is a former paid consultant Firmage employed 10 years earlier when he was just beginning work on the anti-gravity device.

“Firmage asked me repeatedly if I knew of any actual technology that was being developed by the company DeLonge and Puthoff were heading, which they named To The Stars Academy (TTSA), and when I told him I didn’t, he indicated he felt Puthoff must have usurped his overall ‘new physics Academy’ concept he had been talking about for years,” Kiviat recalls. “To be fair, Firmage had a point, in that InterNASA – or its full name, International Academy of Science and Arts, does sound like it could have inspired TTSA. Then he gave me our plan, which was to beat TTSA to the punch and get news stories and TV series made about our efforts to prove gravity-control exists.”

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