A Worthy Attempt to Solve the Enigma of Extraterrestrial UFO ‘Propulsion’

May 23, 2014

Robert L Schroeder KK Gravitons Micro Black Holes UFOS I felt compelled to make a summary of engineer Robert L. Schroeder’s thinking about the scientific basis for the technology of ET spaceships. If his predictions and general ideas are verified through predicted measurements and further experimental advances in particle accelerators, his work will help demystify the concept that scientific laws related to General Relativity make it impractical to “travel” between great cosmic distances. Here the acronym “UFO” will be basically used as an equivalent to “extraterrestrial space vehicle based on gravity control.”                                      ——————————————————————– Mr. Schroeder usually starts his lectures by affirming that the universe known by standard physics is rather simple in that it has 3 types of main components: The 4 basic particles of matter, the particles that transmit the 4 known forces of nature and space-time. The “messenger” particles that transmit the 4 fundamental forces of nature are: The photon (electromagnetism), the gluon with spin 1 (the strong nuclear force that keeps the nucleus of the atoms together), bosons w+, w- and z neutral (the weak nuclear force responsible for radioactivity) and the graviton with spin 2 (gravitational force). The Higgs particle with spin 0 would be responsible of giving mass to subatomic particles and could be considered as a field. Among the 4 basic particles of matter there are electrons (a lepton), protons and neutrons, but protons and neutrons are themselves made up of “quarks” and in 99.9999% of matter there are 2 basic types of quarks. These are the “up quark” and “down quark.” We also have a ghostly particle called “neutrino” and, including the electron, up quark and down quark and the neutrino we would have the 4 particles that make most of the known material universe. Considering “super symmetry”1 there could exist more energetic versions of these 4 particles, (now called “sparticles”). “Space-time” would be the scenery or background environment in which matter particles and the particles of force interact. Scientists are quite interested in the particles of forces, in the forces of nature that lead us to think that they were all unified in a “super force” during the “Big Bang.” Unifying these 4 forces would be the great goal of physicists. They have already been able to theoretically reunify/explain the electromagnetic force with the weak nuclear force and they call this the “electroweak” force. In particle accelerators they have also recreated this force. They are also trying to reunify (above all theoretically) the strong nuclear force with the electroweak force and this effort is called “GUT” (Grand Unified Theory). The big problem has been that they have not been able to include gravity along with the other forces. The force of gravity is very weak compared to the other forces. What is interesting is that the development of some theoretical approximations could explain both why gravity is so weak and some of the behavior of extraterrestrials spaceships as observed in aspects of the UFO phenomenon. Maxwell’s electromagnetic physics, quantum physics and Special and General Relativity assume that the universe possesses 4 dimensions (three dimensions of space and one of time). Since Minkowski’s work we can use the speed of light as a convergence factor in order to treat time as one more dimension.  Before, particles were thought as points without dimensions but with string theory physics they are thought of as being made by strings with a longitude. However, these string theories require a universe with more than 4 dimensions. Physicists also think that it could require 11 dimensions. This is important because it was previously thought that space ships had to travel through a four dimensional space-time (3 of space + 1 of time) but limited to the speed of light and to the amount of energy needed to approximate this speed. One of the important theories derived from “M Theory” (with 10 dimensions of space + 1 of time) is Warped Geometry Theory which tries to explain why gravity is so weak. Robert Schroeder believes it is key to understanding how UFOs may reach Earth from distant stellar systems. String Theory evolved toward “M Theory” and it is believed that we live in a space-time membrane floating on a vaster pentadimensional space. This other space is referred to as “the bulk” and it would represent our universe as a 5 dimensional anti-de Sitter space. The elementary particles (including 3 force “messenger” particles) would be confined to our membrane of 4 dimensions…except for the graviton. Key Specific Ideas: 1)      According to Harvard physicist Lisa Randall and her RS1 version of Warped Geometry Theory, the space between the membranes would be extremely distorted or twisted, so much so that the number of gravitons in this space would exponentially increase by going into it, to the point in which the force of gravity would increase by 16 orders of magnitude. 2)      Most of the gravitons would be within the “bulk” and not in the space-time membrane where we live. We would live in the weak space-time membrane (also simply called “brane”) which is referred to as the “TeV brane” with energies up to 103 GeV (Giga electron Volts). However, there would be another parallel membrane connected to ours but with a much stronger gravity called the “Planck Brane” with energies up to 1019 GeV (Giga electron Volts). The graviton’s probability function would be greater in Planck’s Brane. 3)      In order for a space ship to be able to traverse great cosmic distances it would just have to go into the bulk a by a tiny amount; let’s say 1/10,000 towards where gravity would be strongest in the “bulk.” 4)      General Relativity Theory says that, if gravity could increase, distances would shorten. Time would also slow down. By going into the bulk 1/10000 of the maximum gravitational force possible the distance to the star Alpha Centauri would shrink to 25 miles in relation to our weak brane. 5)      The UFOs could be very efficient particle accelerators and this would be a reason why UFO types have a circular aspect. Even triangular UFOs have been seen to have circles on the extremes. Nature would provide us with a way to distort space-time without the need of so much energy. 6)      It is believed that particle accelerators like the LHC in CERN will eventually produce Kaluza Klein gravitons (or KK particles). With enough energy, these would be gravitons with mass and would be a manifestation of extra dimensions if these indeed were to exist. Thus, KK gravitons would confirm the existence of these dimensions.   KK gravitons would have a -2 spin and be the result of particles being treated as waves within a superior space dimension. These waves would only be able to oscillate a whole number of times in the extra dimension when it is treated as a curled circle. When the oscillation frequency is very high mass in gravitons may be detected in our 4D brane.   7)      KK gravitons will be able to generate such a powerful gravitational force (with an upper limit of 1016 GeV as mentioned) that they will, in turn, induce the generation of micro black holes that could be detected in the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) at CERN because – if any energy is missing – and, due to energy conservation laws, there will be signs that something unusual is taking place. These micro black holes would be real. 8)      Schroeder thought that gravitons and photons in 4 D space-time travel at the speed of light and that –just as photons are absorbed by black holes – gravitons in 4D space-time might also be devoured by the micro black holes. He also found scientific articles backing up that hypothesis. 9)      The micro black holes would form an “envelope” around the UFO. They would cancel out both the UFO’s gravitons and the gravitons trapped in our 4D space-time brane which are produced by Earth’s mass (both of which bound by the speed of light). However, generally speaking, all gravitons would be formed by closed strings capable of detaching from our 4D brane and moving through the “bulk.” 10)   If more gravitons are exchanged between the mass of an object and the mass of the Earth, the distortion of space-time where they are located will be greater. If the extraterrestrial spaceships are using micro black holes to “eat up”/cancel gravitons (both of the UFO and of the Earth), what ends up taking place is that the Earth stops “seeing” the UFO’s mass but perhaps something much lighter.  This is NOT “antigravity” (which is also not recognized in modern physics). This pertains to the reduction or cancelation of the force of gravity and generating KK gravitons would admit the UFO into the “bulk” or 5 D space. 11)   The rotation component frequently seen on UFOs may be for stabilizing purposes, much as a frisbee, and it would be due to the fact that they have become very light objects. If a rotating element is not seen it might be hidden perhaps as a ring inside the structure. 12)   The evidence that UFOs produce black holes would be that they would also produce “Hawking’s Radiation.” This radiation includes gamma and X rays. 13)   When micro black holes decay (and they do it quickly) they generate this radiation that resembles the radiation of a rotating black body, with intensity on the “Y” axis and with frequency on the “X” axis. This radiation in equilibrium with its environment may be measured with specialized equipment and spectrographic analysis during UFO waves in order to detect EM emissions. This could be a major contribution from Ufology to science. We would need to learn about the EM frequencies and intensities, especially those of gamma rays. 14)   Micro black holes decay emitting fermions, scalar particles (Higgs bosons) and Gauge bosons (photons, gluons and W and Z bosons). They would also produce gamma rays such as the ones that NASA Engineer Paul Hill and colleagues detected in relation to UFOs. Micro black holes would also produce intense magnetic fields such as those detected by airplanes near UFOs. Interestingly, tritium (a radioactive isotope of hydrogen only produced in nuclear reactors or in particle accelerators) was found in the 1970’s in Sonora, California, in relation to a UFO producing a product called “angel’s hair.” We cannot see the “bulk” (with a 5th lineal dimension) because we see using photons which are trapped in the weak brane. Thus, a UFO leaving behind our weak brane and going into the “bulk” would become partially or completely invisible. Graviton emissions caused by decaying mini black holes would disappear into the “bulk” or 5 dimensional space. When the micro black holes absorb the gravitons located in the 4D brane (according to the portion of the probability wave function in which they also necessarily manifest), during this decay their energies would be emitted in the weak brane as gamma rays, gauge bosons, fermions (leptons and quarks). Their energies would also be emitted as 5D gravitons into the “bulk.” Thus, energy is conserved. If the equivalence principle is correct, by reducing gravitational mass UFOs would also reduce inertial mass. Interestingly, near UFOs there would be an attractive gravitational force; not a repulsive one (it is not anti-gravity). This would be due to KK gravitons generating a strong attractive gravitational field. In some UFO sightings over bodies of liquid water, water was apparently observed being lifted towards the UFO. Kaluza Klein micro black holes may be soon produced at CERN and may show not only that they cancel gravitons but decay quickly into Hawking Radiation (with gamma rays). IF Schroeder’s theory is correct that radiation could be detected coming out of the higher dimensional technology of “UFOs” allegedly capable of moving into “the bulk”.

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  Conclusions: If KK gravitons are verified in particle accelerators and they are found to indeed cancel out gravity through their production of micro black holes something that would boost the idea that we live in a larger dimensional frame whose properties can be engineered to overcome classic 4D space-time constraints. Moreover, if these KK gravitons can be produced in devices more practically smaller that the LHC at CERN and, if the RS1 variant (or another compatible variant) of Warped Geometry Theory is verified, some of the key features behind UFO “propulsion” may have been discovered. Furthermore, I expect that this scientific approach devised under the geometry of an anti-de Sitter space to explain a plausible higher dimensional “bulk” may also turn out to complement some “universe-as-a-hologram” theories in which information (related to entropy and entropy reduction but also to measurement and a decoding process of consciousness) is fundamental and non-locally shared. I find that the idea of modifying the density of zero-point energy to produce an “Alcubierre Drive” (through KK gravitons if they are found) and the idea about focusing a gravitational “beam” to attract or bring closer a distant region in 4D space-time might also be compatible with the other ideas here exposed. However, those concepts are appropriate for yet another discussion. Sources Schroeder, Robert (2014). DVD: “How Modern Physics is Revealing the Technology of UFOS” International UFO Congress. Open Minds, Fountain Hills, AZ. Schroeder, Robert (2011). “Solving the UFO Enigma: How Modern Physics is Revealing the Technology of UFOs.” Create Space Independent Publishing Platform. https://www.createspace.com/ YouTube interviews retrieved from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRsMoyloZ0g and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzisQG44OPo Notes

  1. In particle physics, supersymmetry (SUSY) is a proposed extension of spacetime symmetry that relates two basic classes of elementary particles: bosons, which have an integer-valued spin, and fermions, which have a half-integer spin. A central motivation for supersymmetry close to the TeV energy scale is the resolution of the hierarchy problem of the Standard Model.…

  Without the extra supersymmetric particles, the Higgs boson mass is subject to quantum corrections which are so large as to naturally drive it close to the Planck mass barring its fine tuning to an extraordinarily tiny value. In the supersymmetric theory, on the other hand, these quantum corrections are canceled by those from the corresponding superpartners above the supersymmetry breaking scale, which becomes the new characteristic natural scale for the Higgs mass…   Other attractive features of TeV-scale supersymmetry are the fact that it often provides a candidate dark matter particle at a mass scale consistent with thermal relic abundance calculations,[6][7] provides a natural mechanism for electroweak symmetry breaking and allows for the precise high-energy unification of the weak, the strong and electromagnetic interactions…   Retrieved from Wikipedia at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supersymmetry



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5 Responses to A Worthy Attempt to Solve the Enigma of Extraterrestrial UFO ‘Propulsion’

  1. Giorgio Piacenza on May 29, 2014 at 8:38 pm

    The possibility of building smaller particle accelerators is “looming on the horizon.” Apparently laser-plasma accelerators could be the next step towards that goal. If some of the circular components of UFOs also are such accelerators which produce particles that produce mini black holes for gravity cancellation this might be a step closer.

    See: “Smaller Accelerators for Particle Physics?” from: Science Daily. Date: May 27,2014. Source: Science Physics News.

  2. Giorgio Piacenza on May 27, 2014 at 11:56 am

    Thank you Mr. Vuyk, I’ll read your work:

    “Earth Magnetic Array Field Interaction with Cyclotron – Synchroton electrons and Muon conversion used for Levitation Systems”

  3. leo vuyk on May 26, 2014 at 11:56 pm

    See also:
    Earth Magnetic Monopole Array Field Interaction with Cyclotron
    –Synchrotron electrons and Muon conversion used for Levitation Systems.


  4. Giorgio Piacenza on May 26, 2014 at 11:09 am

    Thanks for your comments. I agree that there are other elements which might be necessary to overcome gravity and by “overcoming gravity” I still basically mean “cancelling gravity” coupled with “generating alternative gravity fields.” Along with Dr. Schroeder, I tend not to see it as “anti gravity.” I also think that rotatings fields (perhaps mutually cancelling to generate scalar waves and torsion modifying zero-point densities) might also be involved. However, knowing the precise frequencies of these fields creating specific structures, wave forms and harmonies may also be crucial to coupling and de-coupling from “reality” (our particular physical space-time frame)as we know it. Furthermore, the ideas presented in this brief summary of Dr. Schroeder’s ideas could also be necessary from the RS1 string theory and a particle theory approach which in my view can complement one or more also plausible “rotational” approaches. Moreover, an approach related to entropy-increasing and a corresponding entropy dissipating mechanisms (Kozyrev’s torsion theory)simultaneously affecting the passage of Time will probably have to be thrown into the mix.

  5. ShaunS on May 25, 2014 at 2:05 am

    The science here is very poor. Firstly it should be clear to the reader that to influence gravity rotation is required. This should not come as a surprise after all, propellers of various kinds rotate and their action in rotating is to push or pull the medium in which they are placed. So we have the rotating superconductor found to be influencing gravity by a degree of shielding (Norwegians).

    Secondly materials are an important issue as they directly interact with gravity which is associated with mass. Therefore your propeller needs to be made of specific materials.

    Thirdly there is some magnetic effect which is often achieved electrically. Therefore clearly the material Iron is highly favoured for gravity interaction. Vimanas used Iron engines. It has been shown that vibration applied to iron spring type materials (bowden cable) can produce some kind of anti-gravitational effect. So this magnetic principle is acted upon using sound waves.

    In conclusion the rotation is an attempt to produce the effect of a low frequency sound wave, which interacts with the magnetic qualities of some kind of iron like material, to produce some kind of impeller effect. Anti-gravity is simple aerodynamics in the context of an energy medium instead of a physical medium, and in order to understand how to do this requires the bringing together of a number of different technologies. I would point out that aerodynamics took a long time for the human race to discover, but suggest that antigravity and it’s development could be expected to follow a very similar process. The result will be simple and obvious we just haven’t found it yet. The result would be spinning blades of some kind that would pull against gravity.

    Take the complexity of colour photography and the use of chemicals. That was far more difficult than antigravity would be.

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