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US Navy Witness Saw a ‘Tic Tac’ Operating Underwater off of Haiti in 2010

Article by Ryan Sprague                                                    July 11, 2021                                                                (medium.com)

• In January 2010, E-4 Petty Officer John Baughman was serving as a Gunner’s Mate on the supercarrier, the USS Carl Vinson, assisting in humanitarian aid to Haiti after an earthquake had destroyed a large portion of the country. One day, Baughman was dangling his legs off the SAM Launcher Deck on the Forward Starboard side of the ship, taking a short break. “I’d often see all kinds of wild stuff swimming and floating under and on the surface,” he says. “Everything from sharks, dolphins and whales to giant squids, sea turtles, and swordfish.”

• On this day, something caught his attention in the calm and clear water, unlike anything he’d ever seen before. “I was staring into the water from above when a large, fat, white ’Tic Tac’ object, approximately twenty feet in length, suddenly appeared in my view below me, moving right and darted into the depths as fast as it appeared. I couldn’t really comprehend what I saw. It was definitely a solid object, but when it descended, its forward end rapidly collapsed in on itself and disappeared.” Baughman told his work center supervisor about what he’d seen, and was met by a simple shrug of the shoulders. “Everyone sees weird shit in the ocean,” the supervisor said.

• So what could it have been? Was it the now-famous “Tic Tac” object sighted by the USS Nimitz and Princeton off of San Diego in 2004? Were these oblong-shaped Tic Tac objects originating in the ocean? Baughman is cautious in his conclusions. “It could have been just about anything,” he says. “Rapidly moving flotsam with a keen ability to completely disappear, very large albino shark or an albino whale. Could even be an optical illusion, but it cast its own shadow and that’s how I was able to perceive it as a solid object.”

• From his supervisor’s response, reporting such an incident probably wasn’t in Baughman’s best interest. He avoided talking about it for many years. His thinking on the subject of coming forward began to change in 2017 when the 2004 Nimitz event became public. That event was a pivotal moment for many to finally step forward and speak out. “Alex Dietrich and Dave Fravor were initial motivating factors in my coming out with my sighting.”

• While many active military personnel are still afraid to report their sightings, not reporting could actually pose a greater threat. If these events aren’t being reported, then whatever these UFOs are may be more likely to be able to enter our restricted air and sea space without our knowledge, leaving us to play catch-up as we have for so many years. “It’s hard to come to grips with something like this,” says Baughman. “I still feel somewhat insecure about it because it doesn’t make sense.” Are they foreign adversaries playing mind games? Non-human entities? Or the myriad of other possibilities?

• Baughman hopes that the recent Pentagon UAP report will force the DoD to be more productive in working with civilians. He wants the open source intelligence communities to get to the bottom of these sightings. Baughman believes these UFOs and USOs (unidentified submerged vehicles) could pose a threat or be manipulated into subverting our signals intelligence capabilities by capitalizing on the stigma associated with them.

• As the stigma and ridicule often attached to reporting these UFO events continues to dissipate, new reports like Baughman’s are going to become more common. By coming forward now, he’s showing the way for others, and bringing us one step closer to finding answers.

[Editor’s Note]   As you will recall, Dave Fravor, the Navy pilot who chased the ‘Tic Tac’ UFO off of the California coast in November 2004, said that the UFO shot down to sea level and hovered over a large object just under the churning water line.

 

For almost four years now, we’ve been talking about the USS Nimitz and its

   E-4 Petty Officer John Baughman (right)

encounter with “Tic Tac” type objects. Now there’s a new wrinkle. It’s a sighting of what looked like the same type of object, seen from a Nimitz class supercarrier, only this unknown object was operating underwater.

The USS Carl Vinson is the United States Navy’s third Nimitz-class supercarrier. It was first commissioned in 1982, deployed in 1983, and it’s famous for being the ship from where the body of Osama bin Laden was buried at sea in 2011. Since 2009, the ship has been the flagship for Carrier Strike Group One.

E-4 Petty Officer John Baughman served in the U.S. Navy from 2008 to 2013. In January 2010, he was stationed aboard the Carl Vinson, assisting in humanitarian aid to Haiti after an earthquake had destroyed a large portion of the country. A Gunner’s Mate, his job description called for him to “mount, stow, and secure all weaponry, repair and calibrate defense systems, maintain guided

      Navy pilot Alex Dietrich

missile launching, rocket launchers, gun mounts and all other ordnance.” In other words, the job carries serious responsibility and is only given to serious people.

Working as an E2 Blue Shirt on the flight deck one day, he was dangling his legs off the SAM Launcher Deck on the Forward Starboard side of the ship, taking a short break. He’d often look for sea life when things were at ease. “I’d often see all kinds of wild stuff swimming and floating under and on the surface,” he says. “Everything from sharks,

     Navy pilot Dave Fravor

dolphins and whales to giant squids, sea turtles, and swordfish.”

Baughman stressed that he had grown accustomed to identifying what was in the ocean and at what depths. “I had a pretty good reference point on how big or deep something was in the water, especially when you can see the water line on the side of the ship.” On this day, however, something caught his attention in the calm and clear water, unlike anything he’d ever seen before.

“I was staring into the water from above when a large, fat, white ’Tic Tac’ object, approximately twenty feet in length, suddenly appeared in my view below me, moving right and darted into the depths as fast as it appeared. I couldn’t really comprehend what I saw. It was definitely a solid object, but when it descended, its forward end rapidly collapsed in on itself and disappeared.”

Baughman reacted to this moment with disbelief and excitement. Feeling that it was an important observation, he told his work center supervisor about what he’d seen. Instead of a serious debrief or an instruction to file a report, he was met by a simple shrug of the shoulders. The supervisor said simply that “everyone sees weird shit in the ocean.”

So what could it have been? With an eerily similar description of the now-famous “Tic Tac” object sighted off the Nimitz and Princeton carriers in 2004, could it have possibly been something similar? And if so, were these oblong-shaped objects originating in the ocean?

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Mystery UFO’s Off of Virginia Remain Unidentified

Article by George Knapp                                              April 6, 2021                                              (kxnet.com)

• Military and intelligence officials remain baffled by unidentified aircraft that have been encountered in recent years off both coasts of the United States. Investigators with the Pentagon’s UAP Task Force have requested that military airmen try to document their encounters. On March 4th, 2019, one of them did. (see image above)

• Since at least 2014, Navy F-18 jet pilots out of Naval Air Station Oceana in Virginia Beach have reported encounters with a bizarre array of UFOs positioned directly in their daily flight paths over the Atlantic Ocean off of Virginia. On March 4th, 2019, an F-18 weapons systems officer (WSO) seated behind the pilot used his iPhone to capture images of three different objects they encountered in flight. One object was dubbed the ‘sphere’, another the ‘acorn’. A third object encountered on the same day was described as a ‘metallic blimp’.

• A previous photo of the ‘acorn’ UFO was published online in December 2020, and was said to resemble a toy Batman balloon. But after two years careful study by the UAP Task Force, the objects remain unidentified. The Task Force reports noted that the objects were able to remain stationary in high winds, with no movement, beyond the capability of known balloons or drones. Now, more photos of these strange UFOs have been released to the public.

Mystery Wire learned of the still unreleased photos two years ago during a private briefing hosted by Robert Bigelow in Las Vegas on April 6, 2019. Speculation at the time was that the objects might be foreign spy drones, possibly Chinese. Mystery Wire’s George Knapp learned the Navy wanted to capture one for study, but that never happened.

• Chief of Naval Operations, Admiral Michael Gilday maintains that the swarms of pyramid-shaped drones that buzzed Navy warships in July 2019 off of Los Angeles still defies explanation. (see previous ExoArticle here)  Last month, former National Intelligence Director John Ratcliffe told Fox News that he was briefed on the mystery drones. “We are talking about objects that have been seen by Navy or Air Force pilots,” said Ratcliffe. “Movements that are hard to replicate that we don’t have the technology for, or traveling at speeds that exceed the sound barrier without a sonic boom.”

• The pyramid drone swarms that buzzed Navy destroyers in 2019 appeared in the same general area as the 2004 Tic Tac UFO, which was pursued by former Navy Commander Dave Fravor. Unlike previous decades, when the UFO topic was ignored or covered-up by the government, Fravor thinks there are reasons for the Pentagon’s new interest. “I look at it for two reasons,” said Fravor. “One, if there’s a capability, we can’t explain it. Number two, if you can explain it, then you can literally change everything that we do.”

 

         Admiral Michael Gilday

MYSTERY WIRE — Military and intelligence officials say they remain baffled by unusual,

            Naval Air Station Oceana in Virginia Beach

unidentified aircraft that have been encountered in recent years off both coasts of the United States.

Many of the objects have been referred to as drones, but that is not what Pentagon investigators have been telling the chain of command behind the scenes.

Naval Air Station Oceana is the center of airpower on the east coast of the United States. It is a sprawling naval air station in Virginia, home to the best aviators in the world.

Since at least 2014, F-18 pilots flying into the zone designated W-72 have reported encounters with a bizarre array of unknown, unidentified objects and aircraft, positioned directly in their daily flight paths.

                          David Fravor

Investigators with the Pentagon’s UAP Task Force have requested that airmen try to

                       John Ratcliffe

document their encounters.

On March 4th, 2019, one of them did.

An F-18 weapons systems officer (WSO) seated behind the pilot used his iPhone to capture images of three different objects he encountered in the same airspace.

At 3:02 p.m. he photographed an odd shaped object. Another photo, taken close to the same time, was first posted to twitter on May 11, 2020, then again on social media 6 months later.

Other photos taken on the same day; March 4th, 2019 have never been made public until now.

The object the Navy calls the “Sphere” was photographed at 2:44 p.m.

The second one to be photographed was dubbed the “Acorn.” A similar, but different photograph of this same object was published online in December 2020.

Then, 12 minutes later, the WSO spotted a third object, described as the “Metallic Blimp.” It appears to have various appendages.

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Confidential Report Analyzes Tic Tac UFO Incidents

by George Knapp                 May 18, 2018                 (lasvegasnow.com)

• George Knapp’s ‘I-Team’ featured on the Las Vegas CBS affiliate KLAS-TV news show has obtained and released a 13-page Executive Summary prepared by and for the U.S. military analyzing the so-called Tic Tac UFO that was captured on video by a Navy F-18 fighter jet in 2004 and released publically via a New York Times article in December 2017. (see 2:57 minute video below)

• The summary reveals that the Tic Tac UFO played ‘cat and mouse’ with the U.S. Navy off the coast of California over a two-week period in late 2004. The U.S.S. Nimitz aircraft carrier, and its support ships including the U.S.S. Princeton carrying the most sophisticated sensor systems in the world, repeatedly detected recurring glimpses of the 45-foot long Tic Tac but were unable to lock on.

• On Nov.14, 2004, F-18 jets were ordered into the area to view the UFOs up close. Veteran pilot Dave Fravor, commander of the elite Black Aces unit, says the Tic Tac UFO reacted to the presence of the F-18s then took off like a bullet fired from a gun …”like nothing I’ve ever seen. One minute it’s here, and off, it’s gone.” Fravor has expressed his opinion that the UFO technology was far more advanced than anything known on earth.

• The Navy’s initial report was buried and not forwarded to command. In 2009, this more comprehensive Executive Summary was compiled but not made public. In the months since the December 2017 video release, the Pentagon has remained silent. Luis Elizondo, the former Pentagon intelligence officer who ran the Pentagon UFO program stated, “There are many many Nimitz incidences that are equally compelling.”

• Earlier this year, George Knapp’s I-Team traveled to Washington D.C. for a debriefing arranged by former Senator Harry Reid. There they obtained copies of unclassified documents related to the UFO encounters including the Tic Tac. The summary analysis is not dated and has no logo, but four separate people who are familiar with its contents confirmed to the I-Team it is the real deal and was written as part of a Pentagon program.

• The summary report confirms the Nimitz group had several interactions with the UFOs (also known as ‘AAV’s’ – Anomalous Aerial Vehicles). In the 2004 incident, Navy pilots reported a large disturbance just under the surface of the ocean, round and 100 yards across. It appeared as if the Tic Tac was rendezvousing with the underwater object. It was confirmed that the UFO was not something that belonged to the U.S. or any other nation. It was so advanced, it rendered U.S. capabilities ineffective. It showed velocities far greater than anything known to exist, and it could turn itself invisible, both to radar and the human eye. Essentially, it was undetectable, and unchallenged.

 

I-Team Exclusive: LAS VEGAS – Fuzzy videos captured by military pilots caused a media splash over the last six months, but what were those objects in the sky?

Since the Pentagon’s release of three UFO videos, armchair experts have speculated that maybe the objects are birds or balloons or something mundane.

But now, the I-Team has obtained an in-depth report prepared by and for the military, and it analyzes the so-called Tic Tac UFO using the most sophisticated sensor systems in the world.

Over a two-week period in late 2004, an unknown, 45-foot long Tic Tac shaped object played cat and mouse with the U.S. Navy off the coast of California. The mighty U.S.S. Nimitz aircraft carrier, and its support ships including the U.S.S. Princeton, carrying the most sophisticated sensor systems in the world, repeatedly detected recurring glimpses of the Tic Tac but were unable to lock on.

On Nov.14, F-18s were ordered into the area and saw it up close. Veteran pilot Dave Fravor, commander of the elite Black Aces unit, says the Tic Tac reacted to the presence of the F-18s then took off like a bullet fired from a gun.

“It takes off like nothing I’ve ever seen. One minute it’s here, and off, it’s gone,” said retired Navy pilot David Fravor.

In the explosion of media interest that followed the Pentagon’s release of the Tic Tac video along with recordings of two other encounters, Commander Fravor expressed the opinion that the technology was far more advanced than anything known on earth.

But in the months since the release, the Pentagon has clammed up. It has declined to release official documents about the Nimitz Tic Tac encounter, or similar incidents.

“There are many many Nimitz incidences that are equally compelling, that are told from the eyes of people like Commander Dave Fravor,” said Luis Elizondo, former Pentagon intelligence officer.

Until last year, Elizondo ran AATIP, a secret Pentagon assignment that quietly evaluated UFO incident reports. He chafes at the armchair experts who claim the Tic Tac was a balloon or bird, a mistake by the pilots or a technical glitch.

“Let the data speak for itself,” he said. “Let the information we receive from electro optical data; electro mechanical mechanisms be the tool in which we look and compare what the eyewitness testimony is saying.”

U.S. Navy video of ‘Tic Tac’ UFO off of California in 2004

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