By Giorgio Piacenza
What extraterrestrial civilizations would be most convenient to contact as friends and allies of humanity? Should “Apunians” be high on the list of a citizen’s contact initiative? Individuals currently claim they are contacting these helpful ETs. However, I also conducted the following interview in Lima, Peru in 1994 while Vlado Kapetanovic Bulatovic was still alive. Mr. Kapetanovic (who was naturalized as a Peruvian citizen) passed away in 2005 and is considered to have been the first contactee in Peru to speak about contacts with beings from planet “Apu.” He was well-known and respected among ET-contact-interested individuals and UFO researchers. He was invited by Wendelle C. Stevens to the First International UFO Conference and – due to his inspiring, straightforward humanitarian message – received a standing ovation. He transmitted the feeling that relatively easy contacts with respectful, human extraterrestrials were possible. Allegedly, people contacting the “Apunians” didn’t require any special preparation. Mr. Kapetanovic was born in Kolasin, Montenegro in 1918 and after the Second World War came to Peru to work as an hydroelectric engineer.
Vlado was a kind, humble, affable and generous man who wrote “170 Horas con Extraterrestres” under the pseudonym of “Vitko Novi.” The book was published in Spanish, German and Italian, but also in English by Wendelle C. Stevens (in the English version 70 Hours were taken away from the title by mistake). Well, Vlado (like the Apunians) basically inspired benevolence. His first book (“170 Horas con Extraterrestres”) is more credible as it basically narrates events. Subsequent books (like “Galaxia X-9”) seem to be based on what he recalls and partially re-interprets about the history of the world, the creation of the universe and other things that were allegedly shown to him through three dimensional “time screens” on board an Apunian space craft.
Besides Vlado Kapetanovic there are other contactees in Peru who claim to have had physical contacts with the Apunians. Among them, Sixto Paz Wells from Mision Rahma, Ricardo Gonzalez and Roberto Vargas de la Gala. One of the best known Apunians is called “Godar” and I also know a Uruguayan couple who have allegedly contacted Godar besides those mentioned. These contactees’ information about the Apunians matches Vlado’s but only partially so. In Vlado’s case, they are more like “kind people” that interact with Andean shepherds in a helpful way and even accept prepared food and eat with them. They are said to come from another more evolved “galaxy” which Vlado calls “X-9.” In the other contactee cases, the Apunians come from “Alpha Centauri” and are sometimes contacted physically and-or holographically through artificially generated, visible space-time connecting, energy bubbles called “Xendras.” They are human-looking and over 7’ tall but also considered very respectful and protective. Contacting this variety of Apunians normally requires physical, mental and spiritual preparations as if they maintain a higher energy state.
Interestingly, the word “Apu” is very important here in Peru and refers to the powerful spirits of the mountains, to a “lord,” to something sublime and to community leaders. Allegedly, Vlado’s first encounter took place in Hydroelectric Plant of Huallanca, in Ancash, Peru and subsequent encounters took place in a small settlement of high altitude (between 11,000-13,000 feet approximately) shepherds above the right margin of the “Quitaraxa River,” near Los Cedros Creek, not far from “Champara” mountain and close to “Milwacocha.” One of the alleged witnesses was a technician whose last name was “Quispe” and another one was called Adrian Perez. I haven’t located them personally to verify the story but can attest that, during some psychographic communications with alleged “Apunians” (communications in which some family members and friends were involved and which led to clear UFO sightings in the beach of the coastal town of Chilca, south of Lima), alleged “Apunian” ETs held Vlado Kapetanovic in high regard.
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I haven’t seen photographs or UFO films related with this case. It mostly rests on the authenticity Vlado exuded and perhaps on finding a few living witnesses. Mr. Julio Longo who lived with Vlado in Salamanca de Monterrico, Lima attests in favor of Vlado’s sincerity. Anthony Choy (well-known Peruvian UFO researcher) mentions that he met neighbors who saw UFOs near Vlado’s home. Tobías Sarmiento was Vlado’s replacement engineer at the hydroelectric in Huallanca and might still live. A man named Adrian Perez is mentioned in Vlado’s account but I haven’t met him. Veterinarian José Antonio Torre Ferrara allegedly met some of the witnesses of Vlado’s encounters. He lives in Lima and I’m going to research this.
Vlado Kapetanovic : Interviewed by Giorgio Piacenza
Vlado Kapetanovic (Vitko Novi), born in 1918, is a Yugoslavian
electrical engineer who experienced hundreds of physical contact
hours with the Apunians in the highlands of Peru. He is highly
regarded by some people communicating with ETs in Peru and is a responsible
altruistic man living a very simple life. This interview took place
in Lima in September of 1994 and speaks about some of his first
encounters with a very benevolent and old race of friends to the human race.
– Who are they Vlado?
– They are persons that live on a planet they call “Apu,” which is
many millions of light years distant from our galaxy.
– How do they look?
– They look the same as us, yet they are physically better
proportioned (than most on Earth). They can be as tall as they wish
to; some are taller than two meters and some are shorter.
– When did your contacts begin?
– On March 10, 1960, at the Hydroelectric Plant of Huallanca in
Ancash, Peru. One night the light went out… I was an electrical
technician in charge of the plant… I went outside to start the D.C.
emergency system and met with such a light that it seemed to be
daytime. It came from a saucer resting on a piece of land between two
nearby rivers. The security guard, Quiroz, told me not to approach
because “they are persons that do much good up in the villages…
they he-l us, make it rain and every-thing.” I just thought they were
from the military because somehow they had passed through the
electric cables. Nevertheless, I asked Quiroz where they were from
and he said. “They are our friends from planet Apu.” Thinking that he
was drunk, I told him to set down.
Walking towards the light, I encountered two human persons. They
saluted me in my own language (Yugoslavian), but this didn’t
surprise me because anyone can learn languages. I asked them why
they had caused the interruption and they answered, “Friend, we
don’t come to Earth to harm anyone, but to help our terrestrial
brothers…everything for others.” then they climbed into the ship
-How was your second contact?
– On April 2, 1960, a technician and I went
for a hike.1
On a plain we found shepherds with their animals. There
was a campfire and suddenly one of the shepherds came to us and
aggressively asked, “What do you want here?” I told him that we
were hunting pumas. Then he abruptly said, “go over there.”
Suddenly, another person approached from the campfire gathering
and I recognized him as one of those persons that I had seen at the
hydroelectric plant. He gave me his hand and the shepherd allowed
me to pass through. We sat around and one of the foreigners stood
up and said he would demonstrate a “gymnastic exercise” for our
liking. He pressed some buttons on his chest, his pants became
wider like balloons then flew around and returned. Thinking that I
was being hypnotized, I walked back home.
– How was your third experience?
– On May 15, 1960, Quispe the technician and I went for a
walk to the hills and we met with shepherds in huts near a campfire.
Out of a hut came a crying boy and a crying lady. We asked this
lady why she was crying and she responded that a week ago one of
her boys had fractured his spine and several ribs.
Then we went into the hut to see her boy. He was about ten years
old and his body had a deep blue color associated with gangrene.
We asked her to allow us to take the boy to the town of Caraz for
She emphatically rejected this proposal because “the g-ds will
come to heal him”.
I was expecting them to dance naked and invoke the spirits when
suddenly a small airplane descended vertically without any noise.
Everyone around the campfire stood up when a woman stepped out of
this craft, approached and went into the hut. Carrying the little
boy in her arms, she took him into the airplane.
Everyone around me kneeled down, but I remained standing until
my companion told me to kneel. She then approached and said,
“Please stand up. We don’t come to Earth to be thanked, paid, or
worshipped on your knees because we have the sacred mission of doing
everything for others.”
We all stood up, She approached and I asked her, “What have you
done with the boy?”
She responded, “I disintegrated him into minius1
reintegrated him with healthy cells.”
Again, I asked her, “What does that mean?” She made a gesture with
her hands and turned seven sheep into flower vases. I still thought
she could make me see anything through hypnosis. She commented that
on Earth “We, as a people, usually think what we can see or do
“Then, where are you from,” I asked her, “From Earth or Apu?”
“I am from Earth, but have lived in Apu for 100 years.” Then she
moved her hand once again and the vases turned into seven doves. Some
dogs ran after them and I thought, “Poor dogs, they are as hypnotized
as me.” Suddenly, she moved her hand and the seven sheep reappeared.
Then, the lady invited us to go into the airplane to see events on
the “time screens”. Quispe, a few shepherds and I went into the craft
and on the wall we saw a glass screen that began to reproduce
everything we thought.
We saw the birth and life of Jesus Christ and the way
in which a section of Apu was somehow once connected with the Lake
Titicaca region. We also saw how a “cellular planet” touched this
region and promoted life. This is why there are some strange animals
on the lake (such as the giant frogs) that were investigated by a
team of French scientists.
– What is the Apunians’ main message, Vlado?
– They don’t know how to hate. They just reject the negativity
and soften it. This is why they don’t have any wars. They are friends
of all intelligent beings in the universe. If someone attacks them
they disintegrate them and reintegrate them as a friend. Their main
message is expressed by the phrase “everything for others.”3
– Do you still have contacts?
– I have contacts every now and then. One has to concentrate and
relax for this. But they are among us every day since they can
appear as whites, blacks, Orientals or whatever is necessary.
- In “170 Horas con Extraterrestres” the first person to meet the Apunians along with Vlado at a small settlement while hiking above Quitaraxa is Adrian Perez. The second person doing so during a subsequent hike is Mr. Quispe.
- According to Vlado, the “minius” is the origin of all life, the smallest
particle that exists between nothingness and a material something. Whatever name one chooses for it, this primary element of creation would be used to generate enough psychic force to create matter, alter reality, alter space, alter time, conduct instant healing, materialize, dematerialize, reverse age, etcetera
- After Vlado’s example, contactees Juan Acervo, Maruja Soler kindly greet people approaching them to learn more about extraterrestrials with open palms saying the phrase “all for others.” Vlado said that the Apunians specialize in helping living cells and that they were friends of all forms of life. Using the “minius” they could apparently generate “positive ions” that transformed negative situations into positive ones.