by Paul Seaburn November 3, 2017 (mysteriousuniverse.org)
• Presbyterian Reverend Barry Downing, has published a new book, Biblical UFO Revelations: Did Extraterrestrial Powers Cause Ancient Miracles?as a sequel to his 1968 book, The Bible and Flying Saucers.
• In the book, Downing speculates that the angels in the Bible are actually extraterrestrial beings; that the pillar of fire by the Red Sea in Exodus was a UFO’s propulsion system which also was used to split the Red Sea to save the Israelites; that the “bush” that spoke to Moses was an alien; that Moses went to the top of the mountain to find a space ship wherein the ETs gave him the 10 Commandments and specifications for the Tabernacle and the Ark of the Covenant; and that Jesus was himself an extraterrestrial who “ascended” in a spaceship.
• Downing asks his readers to keep an open mind.
“The UFO got in the way of the sun, causing the earth to seem darker, and this would make the ball of light show up even more where the children were.”
What is this retired Presbyterian pastor talking about? If you think this sounds like the apparitions seen by three children in Fatima, Portugal, 100 years ago – except for the UFO part – you must be a fan of Reverend Barry Downing, who makes this and many other astonishing claims in his new book, Biblical UFO Revelations: Did Extraterrestrial Powers Cause Ancient Miracles?. Wait until you hear what he thinks about the burning bush and the pillar of fire.
Barry Downing isn’t just the Pastor emeritus of Northminster Presbyterian Church in Endwell, New York. He has bachelor’s degree in physics, a degree from Princeton Theological Seminary and a Ph.D. in the relation between religion and science from the University of Edinburgh of Scotland. He’s been enlightening and aggravating both theologians and ufologists since 1968 when he published his first book, The Bible and Flying Saucers, in which he equates biblical angels with space aliens.
“Church people have trouble with what I’m doing. People who’ve seen UFOs have no problem.”
That’s an understatement, considering Pope Francis talks about baptizing extraterrestrials while there are other Catholic Church leaders still arguing about Galileo. In an interview with Sean Casteel (who contributed to the book) on the website Unexplained Mysteries, Reverend Downing explains what’s in his new book, which is both an update and a sequel to the first:
“My argument is that the Exodus UFO, the pillar of cloud and fire, which appeared cloud-like during the day and glowed in the dark, used its propulsion system to split the waters of the Red Sea and save Israel from the Egyptians.”
Did religious scholars just feel a disturbance in the force? Downing calls the description of this event in Exodus 14:19-30 a “very detailed environmental impact statement.” He also looks at another significant phenomenon in that book as evidence of an encounter with an alien.“What is not amazing to me is not that we had a burning bush … we had a talking bush. A voice came to Moses from the bush.”
Downing also returns to his idea that angels were aliens who took Moses on their spaceship to receive the 10 Commandments and specifications for the Tabernacle and the Ark of the Covenant. Statements like these have been made by others and can certainly sound believable, at least to ufologists. Where Reverend Downing will likely get criticized is in statements about close encounters of the New Testament kind that he spells out on the back cover:
** That Jesus was an extraterrestrial sent to earth to rid the world of sin and wickedness, quoting Biblical text to support his claim.
** That Jesus left earth in a spaceship to another planet, or perhaps another spatial dimension.
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To the Stars Academy of Arts and Sciences (from now on referred to as To the Stars Academy) was launched by Tom De Longe and by several recently retired aerospace and intelligence community insiders. They call it a “public benefit corporation.” It hopes to collaborate with global citizens to explore the boundary areas of traditional theories. For instance, in terms of technologies, warp drive “is not out of the question.” The stated public purpose is Education – Community – Sustainability – Transparency. According to DeLonge, a company that would inspire, entertain and galvanize thinking. Its stated projects are “about dreams, the paranormal, consciousness and even a historical fictional account behind the UFO phenomenon and our dealings with it. The To the Stars Academy strategy to bring the greatest and most controversial secret to the People will be to “innovate, educate and, hopefully, wildly entertain.”
Mr. DeLonge starts with a video explaining how he had been interested in UFOs and mystery since childhood; how after receiving his first pay check from performing with his band Blink182 he bought a computer to try to gather theories about the UFO phenomenon in order to come up with a unified theory. He mentioned that the extraterrestrial presence had had both good and bad consequences. That surprised me as that was a simple but – as far s we know – fair statement and I had thought that he would only emphasized the negative.
Then, he said that, at a certain point (as To the Stars Academy was getting “on its feet”), there were meetings around the country for 18 months with members of various intelligence agencies (including NASA, DoD and various agencies) all the while his band was unraveling.
Mr. DeLonge met with persons that work in Special Access Projects in Area 51, meeting in abandoned buildings in Washington DC, desert airports. After these meetings, he learned: 1) That there are certain things that should not have been kept secret; 2) That certain secrets were justifiable at the time but that they should now be revealed; 3) That there are certain things so unimaginable that certain interests belief that they should never ever be publicly revealed.
After an article in The Wall Street Journal stated that he had been been meeting with intelligence agents in relation to UFOs he was approached by more individuals. Then (after coming up with a proposal early in 2017 about a way to reveal to the public what was happening with a secret that had been kept for over 70 years) he had several further meetings with important intelligence agents and scientists that joined him.
On October 11, 2017, To the Stars Academy produced an internet event that may amount to a non-official, but implicitly officially sanctioned partial disclosure. To the Stars Academy is a civilian company that aims to produce advanced technologies, probably some of which for national security reasons the military will never reveal, specially the most advanced ones that can be weaponized.
During the presentation Mr. Christopher Mellon: said that there’s a need to end excessive secrecy. There’s a need to spark the public imagination. Mr. Mellon reported that a US Navy-UFO encounter (with F-18 engagement) involving the USS Nimitz and several witnesses was a real event and that there had been many such events. He mentioned an approaching object has been detected on (primary) radar.
Mr. Mellon said that the oversight committees of Congress and Congress in general have to be appraised of the facts, that the various oversight committees can easily request briefings of this event and others like it. “Without the facts congress will not know how to respond. Mr. Mellon mentioned that To the Stars Academy is a public corporation and one of its stated purposes is also to stimulate new thinking. The to the Stars corporation is referred to as “more than a commercial venture. It is an intellectual adventure.”
Mr. Mellon was the “chair of the Science Committee at the Carnegie Museum of Natural History. He served 20 years in the federal government, including as the Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence in the Clinton and Bush Administrations. In addition, he’s worked many years on Capitol Hill including as the Minority Staff Director of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence. As an aide to Senator William S. Cohen, he drafted the legislation that established the US Special Operations Command. (Source: https://dpo.tothestarsacademy.com/ )
Lou Elizondo, a career and intelligence officer continued the presentation. He mentioned that the most interesting topic he was involved with was with advanced aerial threats, focusing on unidentified aerial technologies. He learned that the phenomenon is real. Mentioned that To the Stars Academy will allow a community of interest to detect real events with two way communications and even engineer technology. That they will allow into the public never before released information and to work recording real-time events. They will also facilitate participants to “crowd crunch” data.
Mr. Elizondo worked “with the U.S. Army, the Department of Defense, the National Counterintelligence Executive, and the Director of National Intelligence. As a former Special Agent In-Charge, Luis conducted and supervised highly sensitive espionage and terrorism investigations around the world. As an intelligence Case Officer, he ran clandestine source operations throughout Latin America and the Middle East. Most recently, Luis managed the security for certain sensitive portfolios for the US Government as the Director for the National Programs Special Management Staff. For nearly the last decade, Luis also ran a sensitive aerospace threat identification program focusing on unidentified aerial technologies.” (Source: https://dpo.tothestarsacademy.com/)
Then, Dr. Steve Justice spoke. He worked with Lockheed Skunk Works in a heavily protected facility with some of the technology that many people misinterpret as UFOs. To him the UFO phenomenon is real due to witnesses like Mr. Elizondo and Mellon and it can be technologically reproduced. Considering his comments, I don’t know how much he already knew about retro engineering extraterrestrial vehicles while at Lockheed.
Was he privy to the most secret compartmentalized projects or to highly classified, but nonetheless, “medium level” secret aerospace projects? Regardless of how much he knows about ET flying saucer machinery, as head of the aerospace division of To the Stars Academy (which he now leads) he wants to build an object that reproduces the UFO events previously described. He basically said that the technologies of To the Stars Academy will prepare us for the future and that we shouldn’t dare to place limits on what we can do.
Mr. Justice “entered the defense aerospace industry in 1978 after graduating from the Georgia Institute of Technology. After 31 years, Stephen is the recently retired Program Director for Advanced Systems from Lockheed Martin Advanced Development Programs – better known as the “Skunk Works”. Stephen’s industry experience brings to TTS Academy a deep understanding of strategy definition, breakthrough technology development, advanced concept design, prototyping, system fielding, and program planning and execution using a leadership style that inspires innovation.” (Source: https://dpo.tothestarsacademy.com/)
Tom DeLonge showed a video that image-wise also refers to extraterrestrial UFOs, illustrated by possible archaeological finds like some apparently ancient carved ET images in Mexico.
In the video Mr. Jim Semivan, a retired senior intelligence service member of the Central Intelligence Agency says;
“These things are real; these things are out there, they have been out there for a long time; they are not the provenance of the Government, of any Government in the world. They belong to us. These are things that happen to people all the time. And these are things that we need to explore and we need finally to get together to figure out what this is all about.”
Dr. Hal Puthoff, a PhD physicist who also worked with classified projects for the Pentagon is involved. He worked in an important remote viewing project for the CIA and has published key papers on zero-point energy. Dr. Puthoff “published numerous papers on electron-beam devices, lasers and space propulsion and has patents issued in the laser, communications, and energy fields. Dr. Puthoff’s professional background spans more than five decades of research at General Electric, Sperry, the National Security Agency, Stanford University and SRI International. Dr. Puthoff regularly advises NASA , the Department of Defense and intelligence communities, corporations and foundations on leading-edge technologies and future technology trends. He earned his Ph.D. from Stanford University in 1967.” (Source: https://dpo.tothestarsacademy.com/)
Mr. Tom DeLonge announced a positive and unifying message and model for the benefit of future generations was announced. The To the Stars Academy corporation is not only asking for participants but also asking for investors. To reach the public in a more effective, engaging, transformative way, not only rational inquiry but also right brain activities like the arts and story telling will be offered.
VIDEO of the PRESENTATION AT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUOu9RpzwJI&t=198s
Commentary by Giorgio Piacenza:
Should we welcome and trust this limited disclosure? I am more inclined to welcome it than the disclosure movement to remain stagnant. But perhaps the control group (MAJIC or Majority Joint Intelligence Committee?) which probably decides whether to inform the public and in what manner became aware that society needs to know more in order to be more culturally creative and survive the age of inescapable interconnectivity. Then again, it may be a way (as some conspiracy theorists say) to maintain control of society, perhaps surreptitiously preparing a receptive segment to accept a “False flag” against extraterrestrials in general. And, would the “ones in control” of this scenario be themselves mentally controlled by negative ETs of a similar (don’t trust but instead control) inclinations?
The problem I find with the “To the Stars Academy” project (allowed by the powers that be) is that the positive side of things (validated by thousands of experiencer encounters and many classical contactees) the positive side of the extraterrestrial presence, is not emphasized and that is worrisome because it may attract negative experiences and an extensin of many old patterns.
I believe that positive contacts are basically tolerated and even respected and allowed to be without much interference in case the need may arise to draw on positive extraterrestrial beings for assistance. But the general entrenched attitude in U.S. culture (and with different emphases and styles around the world) is of trying to fiercely maintain independence through power as much as possible. This is why militarism and the way we generate conflicts around the world is unending. This probably limits the ways in which the situation is handled and limits the possibilities to which U.S. citizenry and humanity at large is privy to. The UFO and contact phenomenon can also nourish a culture of peace based on universal integrative principles and the knowledge that humanity has the potential to live spiritually in a positive way in a physical environment beyond a state of nature. But “those in the know” in secret legitimate Government ( and parallel non-Government) control groups don’t seem to emphasize this possibility too much, all the while some citizen groups open to a service-to-self spirituality and contact appear to be representing the best interests of humanity in the long run.