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To the Stars Academy of Arts and Sciences (from now on referred to as To the Stars Academy) was launched by Tom De Longe and by several recently retired aerospace and intelligence community insiders. They call it a “public benefit corporation.” It hopes to collaborate with global citizens to explore the boundary areas of traditional theories. For instance, in terms of technologies, warp drive “is not out of the question.” The stated public purpose is Education – Community – Sustainability – Transparency. According to DeLonge, a company that would inspire, entertain and galvanize thinking. Its stated projects are “about dreams, the paranormal, consciousness and even a historical fictional account behind the UFO phenomenon and our dealings with it. The To the Stars Academy strategy to bring the greatest and most controversial secret to the People will be to “innovate, educate and, hopefully, wildly entertain.”

Mr. DeLonge starts with a video explaining how he had been interested in UFOs and mystery since childhood; how after receiving his first pay check from performing with his band Blink182 he bought a computer to try to gather theories about the UFO phenomenon in order to come up with a unified theory. He mentioned that the extraterrestrial presence had had both good and bad consequences. That surprised me as that was a simple but – as far s we know – fair statement and I had thought that he would only emphasized the negative. 


Then, he said that, at a certain point (as To the Stars Academy was getting “on its feet”), there were meetings around the country for 18 months with members of various intelligence agencies (including NASA, DoD and various agencies) all the while his band was unraveling.

Mr. DeLonge met with persons that work in Special Access Projects in Area 51, meeting in abandoned buildings in Washington DC, desert airports. After these meetings, he learned: 1) That there are certain things that should not have been kept secret; 2) That certain secrets were justifiable at the time but that they should now be revealed; 3) That there are certain things so unimaginable that certain interests belief that they should never ever be publicly revealed. 

After an article in The Wall Street Journal stated that he had been been meeting with intelligence agents in relation to UFOs he was approached by more individuals. Then (after coming up with a proposal early in 2017 about a way to reveal to the public what was happening with a secret that had been kept for over 70 years) he had several further meetings with important intelligence agents and scientists that joined him. 

Image of Mr. Tom DeLonge presenting part of the To the Stars Academy team

On October 11, 2017, To the Stars Academy produced an internet event that may amount to a non-official, but implicitly officially sanctioned partial disclosure. To the Stars Academy is a civilian company that aims to produce advanced technologies, probably some of which for national security reasons the military will never reveal, specially the most advanced ones that can be weaponized. 

Mr. Chris Mellon

During the presentation Mr. Christopher Mellon: said that there’s a need to end excessive secrecy.  There’s a need to spark the public imagination. Mr. Mellon reported that a US Navy-UFO encounter (with F-18 engagement) involving the USS Nimitz and several witnesses was a real event and that there had been many such events.  He mentioned  an approaching object has been detected on (primary) radar.

Mr. Mellon said that the oversight committees of Congress and Congress in general have to be appraised of the facts, that the various oversight committees can easily request briefings of this event and others like it.  “Without the facts congress will not know how to respond. Mr. Mellon mentioned that To the Stars Academy is a public corporation and one of its stated purposes is also to stimulate new thinking. The to the Stars  corporation is referred to as “more than a commercial venture. It is an intellectual adventure.” 

UFO image shown during Mr. Mellon’s presentation

Mr. Mellon was the “chair of the Science Committee at the Carnegie Museum of Natural History. He served 20 years in the federal government, including as the Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence in the Clinton and Bush Administrations. In addition, he’s worked many years on Capitol Hill including as the Minority Staff Director of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence. As an aide to Senator William S. Cohen, he drafted the legislation that established the US Special Operations Command. (Source: https://dpo.tothestarsacademy.com/ )

Lou Elizondo, a career and intelligence officer continued the presentation. He mentioned that the most interesting topic he was involved with was with advanced aerial threats, focusing on unidentified aerial technologies. He learned that the phenomenon is real. Mentioned that To the Stars Academy will allow a community of interest to detect real events with two way communications and even engineer technology. That they will allow into the public never before released information and to work recording real-time events. They will also facilitate participants to “crowd crunch” data.  

Mr. Lou Elizondo

Mr. Elizondo worked “with the U.S. Army, the Department of Defense, the National Counterintelligence Executive, and the Director of National Intelligence. As a former Special Agent In-Charge, Luis conducted and supervised highly sensitive espionage and terrorism investigations around the world. As an intelligence Case Officer, he ran clandestine source operations throughout Latin America and the Middle East. Most recently, Luis managed the security for certain sensitive portfolios for the US Government as the Director for the National Programs Special Management Staff. For nearly the last decade, Luis also ran a sensitive aerospace threat identification program focusing on unidentified aerial technologies.” (Source: https://dpo.tothestarsacademy.com/)

Then, Dr. Steve Justice spoke. He worked with Lockheed Skunk Works in a heavily protected facility with some of the technology that many people misinterpret as UFOs. To him the UFO phenomenon is real due to witnesses like Mr. Elizondo and Mellon and it can be technologically reproduced. Considering his comments, I don’t know how much he already knew about retro engineering extraterrestrial vehicles while at Lockheed.

Mr. Steve Justice

Was he privy to the most secret compartmentalized projects or to highly classified, but nonetheless, “medium level” secret aerospace projects?  Regardless of how much he knows about ET flying saucer machinery, as head of the aerospace division of To the Stars Academy (which he now leads) he wants to build an object that reproduces the UFO events previously described. He basically said that the technologies of To the Stars Academy will prepare us for the future and that we shouldn’t dare to place limits on what we can do.

Mr. Justice “entered the defense aerospace industry in 1978 after graduating from the Georgia Institute of Technology. After 31 years, Stephen is the recently retired Program Director for Advanced Systems from Lockheed Martin Advanced Development Programs – better known as the “Skunk Works”. Stephen’s industry experience brings to TTS Academy a deep understanding of strategy definition, breakthrough technology development, advanced concept design, prototyping, system fielding, and program planning and execution using a leadership style that inspires innovation.” (Source: https://dpo.tothestarsacademy.com/)

Tom DeLonge showed a video that image-wise also refers to extraterrestrial UFOs, illustrated by possible archaeological finds like some apparently ancient carved ET images in Mexico.

In the video Mr. Jim Semivan, a retired senior intelligence service member of the Central Intelligence Agency says;

“These things are real; these things are out there, they have been out there for a long time; they are not the provenance of the Government, of any Government in the world. They belong to us. These are things that happen to people all the time. And these are things that we need to explore and we need finally to get together to figure out what this is all about.”


Dr. Hal Puthoff

Dr. Hal Puthoff, a PhD physicist who also worked with classified projects for the Pentagon is involved. He worked in an important remote viewing project for the CIA and has published key papers on zero-point energy.  Dr. Puthoff “published numerous papers on electron-beam devices, lasers and space propulsion and has patents issued in the laser, communications, and energy fields. Dr. Puthoff’s professional background spans more than five decades of research at General Electric, Sperry, the National Security Agency, Stanford University and SRI International. Dr. Puthoff regularly advises NASA , the Department of Defense and intelligence communities, corporations and foundations on leading-edge technologies and future technology trends. He earned his Ph.D. from Stanford University in 1967.” (Source: https://dpo.tothestarsacademy.com/

Mr. Tom DeLonge announced a positive and unifying message and model for the benefit of future generations was announced. The To the Stars Academy corporation is not only asking for participants but also asking for investors. To reach the public in a more effective, engaging, transformative way, not only rational inquiry but also right brain activities like the arts and story telling will be offered. 


VIDEO of the PRESENTATION AT:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUOu9RpzwJI&t=198s

Concept image of a vehicle to be built



Commentary by Giorgio Piacenza:

The announcements are an important step forward to legitimize the issue that some UFOs may originate with non-human intelligences, but I consider this event to be a partial disclosure. I think that some or all of the persons involved were part of the Government’s secret investigation on the subject but that – perhaps – they were not privy to the most secret research and findings. There might be a deeper level of secrecy (not clearly of the U.S. Government) also working with the extraterrestrial subject, strategies, alliances and retro engineering.  It might even be international in scope and still associated with corporations as Dr. Greer has tried to explain for many years.
However, some persons making the decisions on what to reveal (MAJIC and other commitees that have the overall picture?) may have allowed a shallower level of secrecy to be partially and gradually revealed and asked them to come forward with what they know in order to start working with the civilian population. Perhaps pro-disclosure factions in the deepest “need to know” (sometimes referred to as “white hats”) might have deemed adequate for a civilian organization to link with the community at large. It might be the activation of one of many plausible disclosure strategies. This time what is being disclosed is less “plausibly deniable” due to the credentials of the individuals involved, some of whom recently retired from intelligence and aerospace.  
In my view, it is an important step forward that changes the UFO and ET research picture while some of the most guarded secrets remain guarded, as they should be because some technology cannot fall into the wrong hands.  The speakers gave me the impression of being well-intended. But how much do they know? The speakers know an ET presence is real, that their devices are real, and want to at least partially reproduce the technology (giving them the benefit of the doubt) for the benefit of humankind. They are not revealing that we are in cohoots with some extraterrestrial species or that we have a working space fleet and only seem to have had access to medium level retro engineered devices and classified knowledge that we are not alone. Revealing this much should be a BIG game changer and pro-diclosure activists should be glad!
Now Government officials should say something about this and legitimize the subject even more, basically giving “permission” to the press, other scientistsm various cultural leaders to talk about UFOs and ETs more openly! Perhaps even Russia and other countries with advanced secret program research will feel inclined to speak up even more! 
However, the emphasis catering to the need for defense against possible dangerous ETs is an incomplete proposal as – according to the ANONYMOUS F.R.E.E. (www.experiencer.org) survey on thosands of experiencers with conscious memories, most of the experiencers do not consider the ETs negative. Unless most experiencers are not being contacted by negative extraterrestrial intelligences but there’s nonetheless still a larger amount of them, this suggests that, while there is some reason to prepare for an eventual clash with some of the “visitors,” (and to associate more openly and closely with protective and respectful ET varieties) we must not over emphasize that negative aspect. And we must even consider that more benign beings may even be protecting us. To make wise decisions we need the whole picture.
But full Disclosure is a Consciousness problem, a human consciousness problem. We need to be able to understand and not just the fragment of the whole we are open to. Partial disclosure and skewed-fractional (or subdivided) partial disclosures, also are part of a Consciousness problem. The lack of full open contact is a Consciousness problem: Our individual and collective ability to process multiple aspects of the overall situation. We are not inclined to take in information that doesn’t fit our preconceptions and personal preferences. 
Many will dismiss Mr. DeLonge’s initiative because – in spite of the level of disclosure (or, in this case,”confirmation” as Linda Moulton Howe has recently said) – it emphasizes the negative side of ETs and the need for defense instead of the space brother side whose main defense is linked with spiritual evolution, aligning with LOVE and universal principles (thus not attracting negative ETs and situations) and relying on a large association of benevolent., humanity-respecting ETs to protect us.
Perhaps persons many open to the extraterrestrial situation may find this effort suspect because it is associated with elements of the military industrial intelligence complex usually found suspect (not without reason) in popular narratives within the UFO community. Is it a preamble to the “false flag” situation mentioned by Carol Rosin, Steven Greer and – allegedly – Werner Von Braun, or there has been a “change of plans?” 
There was no mention of the word “extraterrestrial”; it was basically implicit throughout the presentation and the To the Stars Academy event was probably meant first to legitimize the issue with the average person who may be either in denial, indifference or taking it as an unimportant entertaining thing.  There was no mention of the more advanced aspects of a “secret space program” which, if genuine (as it seems to be considering the coincidence among some whistleblowers like Corey Goode and William Tompkins) would indicate that we (humanity) already have extraterrestrial-level interstellar craft, are associated and/or engage with benevolent and malevolent ET groups. But how much the To the Stars Academy team know about this? Are all or most of them only privy to medium secrecy level knowledge and technology? Some may know how to shield and cancel gravity and have worked on (or built) anti gravity craft but are these the most advanced ones? If Corey Goode and Bill Tompkins’s testimonies are mostly true, would these craft be associated with the alleged U.S. Navy’s Solar Warden fleet or with the U.S. AirForce allegedly less developed space fleet? 
As per DISCLOSURE initiatives, there is a competition between privileging technologies or privileging consciousness. The former seems to be spearheaded by factions within the military industrial aerospace intelligence complex. The latter, by grass roots activism, research and experiencer contacts, in initiatives like FREE’s. We need to find an integrative solution in order to think more intelligently about this.
However, it was HISTORICAL. On Wednesday 11 of October a semi official, partial disclosure event haswas underway, organized by Tom De Longe and former inteligence operatives, and aerospace scientists now presenting “To the Stars Academy” a corporation that is to educate and entertain, and research bringing UAP(UFO) data and resources from  people. And it promises to produce advanced UFO like technologies for the benefit of humankind.
It is a step forward for making the UFO and ET subjects credible and I hope that he mainstream press finally covers these developments seriously and responsibly. And I hope that many mainstream scientists feel they have the permission they were waiting inorder to work with these subjects without endangering their careers.  I also hope that politicians stop hiding from the subject in order to continue quarreling so much under polarizing, often retrograde ideas. Finally, I hope that it is not too late for the larger civilian community (heavily under individualism, materialism, polarizing beliefs and narratives, decades of disinformation and overburden by too much factual and fake news information) to be able to process these issues. 
But could this release of information have been orchestrated by a smaller group of “those in the know,” and it might be a partial disclosure of an aspect: The need for technology to defend from the danger of some ET groups. That seems to be the emphasis given to Mr. De Long by a branch of “those in the know” but, off course, the emphasis on negativity may be overblown. It is an entrenched way of thinking perhaps even for the alleged “white hats” in control of the helm within an alleged parallel Government. And this way of thinking – while it recognizes consciousness – also relies extra heavily on the POWER of external technology, perhaps leading to restrictions on the potential of human consciousness. In the Long run, relying so much on technology might restrict possibility of reaching our highest natural potentials and may extend the conflictive human experience into the stars. It should not be emphasized too much as a form of disclosure.
Other disclosure activists may be receiving other aspects of the overall information. Some (like Dr Greer) are informed of the benevolence of most or all ET groups (which appears to be predominant according to most contact testimonies) and perhaps others of those that are mostly neutral. Thus the partial release of info may be skewed into several directions as different representatives of each type of information thinks that he or she has a greater grip on the overall situation than what he really has.
Mr. Grant Cameron evaluates this situation really well. The De Long To the Stars Academy may be partially correct in some aspects but it also is related to a high tech military-prone faction. I think these are partial controlled disclosures for sure. Not the consciousness-raising-before-contact-and-technologies given (Adamski like) types but envisioning civilian participation. 
Have the “powers that be” (perhaps the “white hats”) realized that humanity will be lost, its thinking and critical abilities curtailed unless there is an awakening to reality-expanding information that has spiritual consequences?
Partial truths perhaps but very important ones to wake up more of the population. I think that it is a high tech military-prone faction and we must remain vigilant that this is not a ruse to later on achive greater control of the population. These are partial controlled disclosures for sure but can potentially be consciousness-raising if humanity still has a chance to respond intelligently. It’s not the consciousness-raising-under-universal-spiritual principles-before-contact-and-technologies-is- given (Adamski like). Partial truths that do mention consciousness but rely more upon technology. Again, I think that Grant CAMERON has a good understanding of this.
I think that it is a high tech military-prone faction. In the competition between prioritizing technology or consciousness, the former is privileged. Partial controlled disclosures for sure. Not the consciousness-raising-before-contact-and-technologies given (Adamski like) types. Partial truths. Grant CAMERON has a good understanding of this. Each discloser contacted by different facions thinks he has more of a grip on the overall situation than what he really does. The need to defend against some ET varieties may be real, yes, but it can also be overblown as an extension of the military-industrial conservative way of thinking.
However, from a consciousness based “need to know” basis, how much can we not only individually but colectively handle the truth? 

Should we welcome and trust this limited disclosure? I am more inclined to welcome it than the disclosure movement to remain stagnant. But perhaps the control group (MAJIC or Majority Joint Intelligence Committee?) which probably decides whether to inform the public and in what manner became aware that society needs to know more in order to be more culturally creative and survive the age of inescapable interconnectivity. Then again, it may be a way (as some conspiracy theorists say) to maintain control of society, perhaps surreptitiously preparing a receptive segment to accept a “False flag” against extraterrestrials in general. And, would the “ones in control” of this scenario be themselves mentally controlled by negative ETs of a similar (don’t  trust but instead control) inclinations?

The problem I find with the “To the Stars Academy” project (allowed by the powers that be) is that the positive side of things (validated by thousands of experiencer encounters and many classical contactees) the positive side of the extraterrestrial presence, is not emphasized and that is worrisome because it may attract negative experiences and an extensin of many old patterns.

I believe that positive contacts are basically tolerated and even respected and allowed to be without much interference in case the need may arise to draw on positive extraterrestrial beings for assistance. But the general entrenched attitude in U.S. culture (and with different emphases and styles around the world) is of trying to fiercely maintain independence through power as much as possible. This is why militarism and the way we generate conflicts around the world is unending. This probably limits the ways in which the situation is handled and limits the possibilities to which U.S. citizenry and humanity at large is privy to. The UFO and contact phenomenon can also nourish a culture of peace based on universal integrative principles and the knowledge that humanity has the potential to live spiritually in a positive way in a physical environment beyond a state of nature. But “those in the know” in secret legitimate Government ( and parallel non-Government) control groups don’t seem to emphasize this possibility too much, all the while some citizen groups open to a service-to-self spirituality and contact appear to be representing the best interests of  humanity in the long run. 

Other disclosers like Dr. Greer (in contact with other factions or people in the know feeding him different aspects) think that all ETs are benevolent. He would not agree with the DeLonge approach. Then again, each major discloser chosen for a partial disclosure of an aspect think that he or she knows more than what he knows and is also chosen because he or she has some credibility issues that render possible the “plausible deniability” of what he is saying. It all seems to be carefully planned. Again, I think that Mr. Grant Cameron has a good understanding of the multiple disclosure initiatives.
We TEND to DISMISS anything we don’t like because doesn’t fit the information being proccessed by our personal cognitive identities and this is why there are different partial disclosure initiatives and why (as a UFO-ET Contact-Disclosure-Exopolitics Community) we can’t see the overall picture and connect with each other. This seems to be why we can’t have open contact even with highly benevolent beings, and why there are multiple types of disclosure strategies, both from the Government and from ETs. It is a CONSCIOUSNESS problem, ultimately a need for a practical and experiential alignment with The SOURCE, The Absolute Ground of Being, as per how much of reality and perspectives we can simultaneosly handle without dismissing and fighting with each other…(including ETs).


Astronomer Eamonn Ansbro, PhD, specialist in Solar System Astronomy and instrument maker is a member of the Royal Astronomical Society, SETI member in the UK, discoverer of a Moon quake, past Vice President of the International Union of Amateur Astronomers. His scientific accomplishments include discoveries of a hydrogen envelope around the rings of Saturn. Dr. Ansbro also explores a form of proactive interaction with extraterrestrial intelligences (or CE-5) modulating hiperluminal, longitudinal EM waves based on consciousness resonance, a form of potentially instantaneous and simultaneous communication with more advanced civilizations which would not use regular transversal EM radio waves to communicate.

The frequency (compression and expansion) is modulated with voltage. They have been working for about 10 years and are now in Ireland. Ansbro and team are applying an apparently more effective form of CE-5 based on what they call “Co Creative Science” by Machaelle Small Wright and Catherine Ansbro tuning first with nature in order to achieve communication. They also use very advanced conventional detection instruments (multi-directional visual, gamma rays, infrared, etc).

The non orthodox effort is associated with a more conventional SETI effort at SETI KINGSLAND, an Optical SETI research center. It includes five, sixteen and thirty-six inch reflectors, with specialized CCD cameras.What should matter for more conventional SETI scientists still working with radio waves and optical SETI should be…RESULTS. Thus, his unorthodox research into ET communication and UFOs is tolerated.  http://www.kingslandobservatory.com/about.html 

Apparently they have been quite successful. But soon (perhaps by November of this year) they will have 2 devices ready for non-conventional communication and may experience more dramatic results. This effort expands ufology way beyond the traditional “nuts and bolts” approach, combining science and consciousness under shared patterns. Through the combined use of resonance based on a nature-aligned consciousness modifying longitudinal waves (which are more closely related with natural living processes),ufology is expanded, becoming more interactive, experimental and capable of finding direct answers, both with scientific instruments and with the use of conciousness. We could perhaps call it “conscious contact ufology.”

After many years of research, Ansbro is certain that we are being visited. He claims to have found 660 paths which UFOs use intersecting the Equator in synchronous motion around the Earth, as large motherships wait, for instance, in the upper stratosphere while sending down smaller probes for sort term operations.

Superluminal LONGITUDINAL WAVES are important. Professor Konstantin Meyl working with Tesla’s technology has been able to produce them. His also transmit electrical energy wirelessly. 

We need to learn how to produce longitudinal waves in a useful manner and how consciousness and living patterns interact with them. That would be a step forward in understanding how advanced ETs not limited to spacetime may operate and may be a way to solve the Fermi Paradox.

In this 2016 lecture, astronomer Eamonn Ansbro didn’t say how the longitudinal wave producing devices were made and how to couple these waves with consciousness and intention (after it has attuned with nature) but this information should be easy to locate. He may be experimenting with optical Bessel beams forming X-waves that have a focused superluminal component that could be considered longitudinal. I don’t know, but this information should be easy to locate.

We also need to find the mathematical and conceptual compatibility with the Quantum Hologram and with the other theories considered that connect mind, matter, consciousness across levels of reality. Longitudinal Waves (associated with EM waves) also seem to directly carry entropic and negentropic energies modifiable by intention ultimately originating in the non-physical realm of existence. They may be used to communicate, inter phase and to re-program.

Transcript/extract of segments of the lecture given by Mr. Maussan on September 20, 2017 at the Ufology World Congress in Montserrat, Spain:

Mr. Jaime Maussan: On September 5, the results of DNA analysis of the BioTecMol laboratory arrived. I gave the samples to them on June 15. Tests were carried out to arrive at an extraordinary conclusion: 30% of this DNA is similar to the human being, but 70% is not. As it is the report of a laboratory says that surely they are of bacterial origin. However, in a more detailed analysis, it was found that only 20% is of bacterial origin and 80% of that 70% it was not possible to establish its origin or find another species on Earth that shares it. About 2,000,000 more sequences need to be determined and this will take from 6 months to 1 year aprox. These are preliminary results.

Biologist Ricardo Rangel (shown in a video interview by Mr. Maussan): Some 600,000 sequences / molecules with an approximate length of 150 nucleotides have been obtained through a massive sequencing process. Of the 4 samples that have been studied, between 19% and 30% of similarities to the human genome have been identified. We have tried to compare databases using a progran known as BLAST (Basic Local Alignment Search Tool), an international database based on the complete human genome and other organisms and more than 2000 micro organisms, of bacteria. Sequences have not been found to have significant similarity to the human genome. Nor have they been found to have no similarities with the bacterial genome. We are comparing with animals like primates, the crocodile, the sea turtle to see if there are similarities and the results is that so far with the database we have there is no similarity. We still have a lot more DNA to sequence which will take us at least 6 months to 1 year.

Dr. José de Jesús Salce,  forensic medicine teacher for the Mexican Navy, has been contributing to this research in a personal capacity and referring about the smaller species (not about the larger specimen called “Maria”): “The location of the foramen magnum is interesting. The base of the skull has a square, cubic shape when in most primates, if it is not round, it is oval. It would be the first time that we are observing a species with a large hole of cubic form with edges of a square type. The foramen magnum is located exactly in the middle of the skull or in the middle segment and not in the posterior or posterior third segment as usually occurs.

In a human being the viewing angle is an average of 140 degrees. Here, the position of the orbital spaces tells us about the possibility of having a wider viewing range of perhaps 180 degrees. The bone structure would allow a greater amplitude of the human being.

The oral cavity again emphasizes that it has a very small jaw would only allow swallowing but not chewing and we see the pneumatization (black spaces that are trabeculae or spaces in the bone that are probably pneumatized. They give lightness to the skull. However, it does not diminish its capacity of resistance, that is to say, it remains rigid and resistant but is lighter, In addition, if they were to be pneumatized, this could favor the resonance of the skull, a resonance of a very weak sound that would be ultra sonic or sub sonic.

If the alteration had been made in life we would see the traces of surgery. And, if the alteration had been made after death, the tissue is not alive and therefore would not have regenerated and would not have regained its shape and the scars and the points of union would be noticed.

Regarding “Maria” the larger specimen, it is not possible (that two fingers in each hand have been cut and that phalanxes have been added) because the length of each bone is specific and this would give us traces that have been modified, cut or added. However, the anatomical correspondence between each bone and the relationship between them determines that it is not possible to alter or falsify these hands.”

Dr Raymundo Salas, Peruvian radiologist and expert in Tomography with 35 years of service said in a video tapoed interview that he determined that “María” (the larger specimen) had been a living being. She has internal organs (unlike mumies), perhaps even ovaries. The roots of the phalanxes in the feet show that it would not have been possible to alter the feet. The tomography shown no mutilation. Also, the bones in the hands which are unusualy large (20 cm) connect with each other perfectly well and neither “Maria” nor “Wawita” (a similar mummy but of a 1 year old once living being) show signs of manipulation. The larger mummy “María” has a gynecoid pelvis but the sex of smaller mummy “Wawita” has not been determined. Dr. Salas said that the skulls (cephalic perimeter) are somewhat larger than normal and elongated. 




In a video taped interview of Dr. Edson Salazar Vivanco (a Peruvian surgeon), Dr. Salazar Vivanco explained that: One of the small bodies (the decapitated body) has prominence in the iliac crest, absence of pubic bone, prominent clavicle, a single bone in the forearm that in the human we have the ulna and the radius, presence of carpal bone and 3 phalanges in 3 fingers. In the leg below the knee a single bone instead of the tibia and fibula. In the tarsus of the feet a single bone joined to 3falanges. The skin is in the form of scales and porous to the touch. It resembles the skin of a lizard.  We were able to study 3 new small bodies and they were called “the family”.

Mr.Maussan reminded that – while there are 6 and 7 finger syndromes in human beings – there are no known 3 finger  human beings. 

He mentioned that few detractors have been recently commenting about the 60cm beings. “Why would they speak of them if (for them) ‘it was demnonstrated’ that the larger body is false?” He also noted that although they are similar as a species, each one has unique facial and individual features. He  mentioned that after noticing that one showed a bulge pelvic area, 3 eggs were discovered in one specimen under X rays. 


Comment: We must consider biologist José de la Cruz Ríos’ study of the smaller specimens that look more reptilian in appearance. 

Mr. Maussan said in the conference in Montserrat that perhaps one of the reasons for so much resistance against this investigation (even within the ufological community) may be that history itself would have to be re-written. He and all the other researchers mentioned and also Mr. Thierry Jamin (who has been promoting this research almost from the begining)  have stated that they are willing to recant and say that they were mistaken if they are scientifically proven wrong. 

On the other hand, Mr. Maussan revealed that the Peruvian journalist, Mr. Jois Mantilla was taken to a cave like opening by “Mario” the huaquero who knows where the specimens are and – apparently – were they were found. Here it is claimed that several of the mummies were found in Nazca, on a very steep hill. A video of this was shown during Mr. Maussan’s conference in Montserrat, Spain.


This research effort is excellent and very important! The investigation must continue but there already is enough robust evidence in favor of the extraordinary. We must support research! Get to the bottom in more detail to support a position in scientific debates. And repeat studies if possible. It could very well be the definitive evidence that we are not alone because there are visitors from other worlds who have lived with us in the past or who still interact with us or maybe there are intelligent non-human beings in underground bases. Be that as it may, the ufological society, paranormal researchers, researchers of the mysteries of the past, alternative thought, spirituality, and extraterrestrial contact must respond by joining when the moment arrives …. which is now!

Support research and even more research for humanity to awaken under whoever has the capacity and willingness to “wake up” and change paradigms towards a more connective and healthy worldview. Please share.

The conference (for now in Spanish):




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